Below 20 HZ Notes/Instruments


What are the music CDs and Music Instruments that have or produce deep notes under 20 hz? Want to set and tune the new REL subwoofer I just bought that is intended to supplement my 2 channel system. My main speakers are full range and goes flat up to 21 HZ ( Dunlavy V's in my room ).
e.g Pipe organ goes way under 20 Hz.

Appreciate your responses in advance.
nilthepill
I also own SC-V's. I listen to a fair amount of organ and electronica which are the only instruments with fundamentals below 27Hz. I use a Sigtech and with a realtime analyzer measure my Sigtech corrected Dunlavy's flat to 22 Hz with very decent output at 16Hz due to room placement. (Try the Dutoit recording of the Pines of Rome with a 16HZ pedal on the final track).

I've tried several Subs and have found that they detract from the Dunlavy's for music reproduction. I only use mine when we set up the room for dance.
I wouldn't use a sub with your speakers. The bass the Dunlavy Vs produce is so deep, accurate and tuneful that it seems to me that you're more likely to hinder the overall presentation in both balance and soundstage.

Good luck, Dave
I found two things really made my rel sound good. First it was designed to go into the corner.

Second is the crossover setting. If your speaker cut out at 21hz then your Rel should be set at 20hz with the volume on the rel on the high side.

All crossovers have bleed through. The volume turned up on the Rel creates a little more bleed through and helps cover the small gap between 20 and 21 hz. If you put them both on 21 then they overlap and it gets boomy.

This is how Sumiko told me to set it up and it made a HUGE difference.
I think the answer would be to have two Stereo RELs Placed symetrically with the main speakers and then adjust the volume such that it blends with the Dunlavy's. Setting will be still at the lowest 22 Hz cross-over cut-off. So now the imaging is right from L-R but depth could be still off. I am considering to have the matching Tower subwoofers that Dunlavy makes. Of course the option is much more expensive both $ and space wise, and a question is still there if it is gonna work for music.( like the main speakers are capable of on their own. Bass originates precisely at certain region in sound stage full bodied and deep with lot of air) All for last 5-10 Hz!! If They are only for movies then I would not be interested. I must be crazy even to consider it. But I got extra amplifier and matching cables laying around... The quest continues.
I agree with you that if you really have to subwoof the SC Vs (and I don't really think you should unless you're willing to put up with the garbage that's down there as well as the rest and have a strong back to move the damned things around), the only way to go is stereo subwoofers, as the Dunlavys and the Duntechs are among the few speakers which actually seem to be able to localize low bass sources (don't ask me how, I never could figure that). A single subwoofer may run counter to that, unless you can cut it off steeply (24 db/octave or higher) at 20 hz or so. If you have unlimited funds and a big enough room, the Dunlavy towers are probably the way to go. But there really isn't that much down there in the regions you're going for that you don't already have a dedcent taste of at 22 hz.