Chinese fake cables How fake, how good?


I have noted a number of warnings about cheap Chinese fake cables on this site but curiosity led me to the Aliexpress site where I found a number of presumably fake big name cables from predominantly Cardas, Nordost and Siltech at about 15% of the USA or Australian price. I found Cardas Clear Light interconnects at about US$100 and decided what the heck let's give them a try at that price. Before buying I asked the seller the daft question as to whether they were genuine and got the reply that they were an OEM and constructed the interconnects from genuine Cardas cables and connectors. They arrived in a plastic bag rather than the Cardas box , not a great start but the cables looked real, and when connected, much to my surprise, they sounded really good. After 100hours or so burn in they sounded great and better than the Nordost Quatre Fils I had been using. I then took them to an Australian hi end dealer who sold real Cardas and asked rather ingenuously whether my cables were the real deal. The dealer would not commit but agreed to compare them to the real thing on a set up costing at a guess around A$100,00. Neither I nor the sales person could tell any difference so he then tried them against the Cardas Clear. Then there was some difference, not extreme but subtle, and certainly IMO not worth the price difference even if you bought the genuine Cardas Clear Light. So are these cables really fake and even if they are given my experience they are well worth a try. Maybe I'll try Nordost Odin or Siltech 770i next.
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Anything that is a fake is not worth a try because you are supporting an illegal, unlawful, prohibited behavior at the cost, expense, and harm to legitimate designers, manufacturers, and distributors.
I'm not sure how strong the laws are in China against counterfeiting, if they exist at all.  I believe this is one of the subjects of the current talks between our countries.  OTOH, there are several companies marketing products here that slap their brands on much cheaper Chinese products and sell them at a big markup.  That's not illegal, but caveat emptor. 
The problem is you bought one item from one seller out of over a billion people in a really big country. The next person buying may have not as good an outcome. So it is a tossup. Willing to take the gable? then no problem.     
To me, the main problem would be if you now sold that A$100 pair of fake cables as if real for A$300. in the local audiophile community.
I am certain there are folks doing just that. So to me, if anyone knows the are buying a fake, no problem. The problem comes in the resale to innocent victims being scammed by resellers. And is the number one reason I no longer buy used cables.
I have this issue with cables, generally. The price differential rarely relates well to any perceptible changes in sound quality.


China's companies over the years have done a lot of manufacturing "off the books" meaning the item may be made on the same line as the legit product but simply is not shown in the accouting sent to the company requesting the work. Its very easy for them to hide extra runs of a product if the company - which is usually in the USA - doesn't have someone on site. This goes on in many industries, not only high-end audio. These products never go into the dealer network and therefore cannot be accounted for. I've heard the comment that authorized dealers sell excess inventory and create "Gray Market" products. That may occassionally occur but what happens more often, and on a much bigger scale, is the Chinese manufacturer is simply selling directly to an exporter the extra product it manufactured off the books. They count on doing this and often calculate it into their quotes when pricing a cost for manufacturing a product. So is it "counterfeit"? The answer is yes but it may be the exact same product you would buy from an authorized dealer.