Conrad Johnson preamp: ET5, ET7 (series 1 or 2) or ET3SE ??


Have always been a CJ preamp fan, but never an owner.  Taking a serious look at them again.  Of the ET series, I have only heard the ET5, and that was some years ago.  So I started looking for a used ET5, and in the process finding 7, 3, and 3SE, making me expand my thinking.

i wonder if anyone has compared the five models?  As I understand it, the 5 was replaced by the 7, which was then updated to the 7 series 2.  Does it necessarily follow that the 7 is better than the 5, with the 7series 2 even better yet?  And looking at reviews, TAS loves the 3SE, so is it “almost” as good as the 5 or7?  I also know that the 3 is upgradable to the 3SE, and the 7 series 1 to the current 7 series 2, providing a couple additional paths to consider.  i should state that all are within my budget, so that while I don’t mind saving money with the 3SE, I have money for the 7 (used) in my audio budget.

I really wonder if someone has really compared any combination of the above, such that you could help me eliminate one or more of the possibilities, or help me focus on one or two units.

I know that it will be system dependent, so I am running Naim digital and Naim preamp into a Primaluna HP amp, driving Proac monitors in a near field set up.  I listen to mostly female vocalists, acoustic rock and acoustic jazz.  I love soundstage and bass is not important to me.

((not that I want the discussion to go sideways, but this kind of opens up the philosophical question of, given a specific company, are the new models better than the past year models, and the more expensive units better than those less expensive, and is an update/upgrade always an improvement.))

thanks for your thoughts,

Bill
meiatflask
Sounds like everyone is confirming the ET5 is much better than the ET3SE, which is kind of what I expected.  So that ends that half of the discussion.

the question now is:

how does the ET5 compare to the ET7?

Anyone?  
I have owned many. Take the ET5. You should not be sorry if you get it down to $3200.  If you are inclined to go ET7 series 1 used. The you get a more complete and tighter bass.  The new ET6 or ET7s2. Find the Conrad Johnson Dealer in Tucson Az who is usually o. US Audio Mart. He usually has good pricing in demo models.  CJ sound is similar in all cases and the further up you go the more detail to the same CJ sound you get.  I had them all and at $3200 used the ET5 was a great middle ground of content 
I have a crappy old ET3!
It was a pretty good Preamp with great soundstage & ok highs

i upgraded to a Mitsubishi Cyro tube That was supposed to sound like a Telefunken .

my goodness , what a change
Highs are sweet & detailed from stock EH
very grainless & english gentlemanly of the preamps!

I have heard the ET5 with a Vandersteen Treo....It was good, but I think NOS tubes really are great with CJ

I think you cannot go wrong with CJ 

jeff


All Conrad-Johnson components are hopelessly colored, distorted, and voiced so as to sound warm, syrupy, and lush to those who are weary of the distortions common to modern digital playback in Music Reproduction Systems.
Hi clearthink, the question is "Conrad Johnson preamp: ET5, ET7 (series 1 or 2) or ET3SE ??"

Your answer is that Conrad Johnson gear is a band aid brand to fix the damage caused by digital playback. Would you mind providing what gear you would recommend in addition to the gear you do not recommend?