Do speaker cables need a burn in period?


I have heard some say that speaker cables do need a 'burn in', and some say that its totally BS.
What say you?


128x128gawdbless

Auditory memory of sounds we're exposed too frequently over a long period of time is good: e.g. a parent's voice.

Auditory memory of a sound experienced once over a fairly short period of time, e.g. an auditioning of a new audio component, is very poor.

Hence, impossible to judge with your ears how much burn-in of cables helps.  If you listen to them once, you can't remember by the time they're fully cooked.  If you listen to them over a period of time, to form a more durable impression, you're actually burning them in while you listen.

All you can really judge is whether, subjectively, the experience of listening to them after burn-in is as positive to you or more so, compared to your judgment when you first listened.  This isn't the same thing.

Factor in favorite music selections that you know very well and it's incredibly easy to discern break in, even with cables. When your equipment is already broken in, trying new cables with music that you're intimately familiar with is actually quite an easy thing to do. 

Don't we always cite our favorite go to CDs and records when evaluating gear? Why would it be any different with cables?

All the best,
Nonoise
Why are we back to auditory memory stuffs here.  I feel like we are going back to the stone age.  Something we already talked about.
Like I said, manufacturers have a lot of cables lying around so they can do A - B between new and old cables so there is no need to recall something many days ago.
@andy2

Like I said, manufacturers have a lot of cables lying around so they can do A - B between new and old cables so there is no need to recall something many days ago.


And that is exactly why it is suspicious that they do not (that I'm aware of) produce any objective measurements showing the physical changes between a burned in and new cable.   Let alone tests correlating such changes to their audibility. (The only, rare,  attempts I'm aware of to measure for burn-in in finished audio products, either cables or other devices e.g. CD players, were negative for burn in effects).

Even in this thread people have appealed to the idea "high end cable manufacturers recommend burn in, so it must be a real thing!"

Yet when you check out the claims, e.g. on the Nordost page (one of THE most well-regarded cable companies in high-end), anyone with a critical-thinking neuron in their head can see how dicey and unsupported the claims are. 

Look how many cable companies there are.  None (that I know) provide objective,  repeatable data demonstrating their claims and you'd think they have the equipment!  Lots of them just tell you it happens, which entails that it is "only fair" that you keep the cable for the allotted "burn in" time.    And that is a good marketing move - salesmen know about the "get the foot in the door" approach, where once you can say "look, just take it and try it out" the sale is more likely than if the customer doesn't even take the product.


Why do things like "cable burn-in" operate like pseudoscience, where the companies (or audiophiles or hi-fi salesmen) make some technical-sounding claim that is never actually supported by measured data, but only by anecdote? 

Andy, could you answer the question I posed before, because I'm sure it has consequences for the assumptions you've made about cables, that perhaps you have not thought through:

Do you think the "higher end" cables, such as your QED, transmit sonic information that the Belden cable is incapable of transmitting?