Does any one know a cable that is able to compete with clear day double shotgun?


I have a pair of clear day double shotgun and curious to know how its level is in the current market. If you have tried clear day’s double shotgun and some other speaker cables, please share your experience. Thank you in advance.
twinterfinder
Have double shotgun’s and agree a great cable along with Paul’s IC’s both single and balanced. I’m not using my Clear Days currently, but will keep them as maybe I’ll build a second system or something. At the moment I am using Wywires Silvers throughout including PC’s. In comparison on my system I feel the Wywires just get out of the way better with a wider stage. For the money I’ve not heard anything that embarrasses Clear Days so expect to spend a lot to hear small improvements. As always cables are system dependent and are tone controls to some extent so everyone’s going to have their opinion on what the prefer.
adg101

Thank you for your experience sharing. The reason I ask the question is not that I want to replace it but I was absolutely amazed by it. It works so well on my system and I tried put it to my father’s system. He loves it so much and I couldn’t take it back. It is hard to find a used clear day and I just want to get one in similar level as quick as possible and I can get rid of my old cable. I guess every audiophiles know that feeling.
Double shot ClearDays work in my system as well.   ..just a cautionary note....all can cables sound different on different systems. 
twinterfinder

Pauls jumpers are great too. If your speakers are bi-wire and only using the straps that came with the speakers, you really need to get your hands on Paul’s jumpers. Clear Day IC’s are worth finding too.

Haven’t heard anything on Paul lately but praying he’s doing well. If anyone has an update please post. Thanks


adg101

Your advice is again appreciated! My 1.3 se has no bi-wire available and I am definitely looking for clear day’s IC.

I have reached to Paul a month ago. He is a great gentleman and gave me advices even though he is no longer in business.
stringreen

indeed cables are system dependent. Since I have limited budget, I believe some advices  from audiophiles may lower the risk. Thank you!
Twinterfinder, I bought the blue jeans ten speaker cables, they are as good as clear day shotgun, remember I own the single and shotgun, the blue jeans are well made.I still have clear day Cables they are keeper...
I spoke with Paul also and he confirmed that he's not in business anymore.

I have a pair of 8 strand solid core solid silver cables on order from this seller: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F372560920752

He's making me three speaker cables with integrated jumpers and silver spades, cryod, and five silver XLRs. He's also covering them in nylon braid for me. I can report on them when I get them if there's interest. 

Price was £540 for all 8 cables. 

conradnash


That sounds very interesting! For one with limited buget like me, your reply is very much appreciated.

Please share your audition result on the forum. That would be very helpful to the audiophiles. Did you see any discussion about John's cable on internet?

Silver alternative to Clear Day.

http://www.cabledyne.com/synergy-speaker-cables.html

They have a 40 day satisfaction guaranty so worth a try.  I've been really impressed with the pair I bought.
jackd

Cabledyne is also one that is usually referred to on the forum and very attractive at its price range(Synergy). Thanks a lot!
I received my silver cables and interconnects from John yesterday and today I hooked them up. They look well made and well finished. Usually he just covers them with heatshrink, but I asked for additional nylon braid. I think it improves the look and feel.

https://imgur.com/a/2c4t2B3

They sound great. A little more transparent, slightly deeper soundstage. I’m getting closer to that holographic image people refer to. I think I’m limited by my room and speaker placement rather than cables though.

All in all I’m very happy and will order more cables from John.

As a comparison I’m thinking of getting some cabledyne cables for the living room and I’m contemplating some Gothic Audio cables for my second system: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202055520171

conradnash

  Glad to hear your feedback and thanks to the discovery. Looks like silver cable makers in UK are quite active. Unfortunately I didn't find any review about the Gothic Audio. Please let me know if you find any.

Do you also have clear day cable in hand? Can you share the comparison result?

Cabledyne is one of the recommendation in Audiogon. It can be a very good a/b test standard.

I don't have any clearday cables. I tried to buy some but he's not making them anymore.

I'm trying to buy some Cabledyne as well. I'm in the US in a few weeks and I was trying to coordinate my order with my trip, but the supplier is away for Chinese New Year with no ETA on when they'll be able to provide the silver again. I might just have to order those to the UK.

Gothic also goes under the name of Achtung. They have good eBay reviews but that doesn't really mean anything. They also have a 30 day trial so I could buy and return if I'm unimpressed. John Miller had the same, but I'm keeping his.
I am also interested in your audition result on the Gothic audio if you do buy them.

Thanks for sharing!
I had Clearday; compared with Black Cat, Goertz MI2, Kimber 8TC, Zu Satori, Audience AU24. Kept the Audience. Clearday had nice tone and fair details. Audience more natural, more defined, more presence, more extended bass. YMMV
motokokusanagi

Wow! You have experienced really wide range of speaker cable. I know only 2 of them. Your sharing is very much appreciated!

How do they rank in your system btw?
Yeah I’m OCD so I took out a big cable loan from cableco. I mean, a lot of cable stuff is very system dependent. For me it went:
1. Audience AU24
2. Black Cat Morpheus (discontinued, sounded very nice and much cheaper than Audience, but picked up RF from radio towers! And was the only one to do so; weird. I think they were just silver conductors in cotton with no shielding)
3. Clear Day
4. Zu / Goertz / Kimber
5. Mogami / Bluejeans type stuff

Always curious to hear more and would have preferred to not spend as much, but Audience matches my tastes best of all, and I found a good price on a used pair from cable co I think, or here; can’t remember.


motokokusanagi

I have heard of cableco but did not look into it seriously. I too would like to hear as many as possible. Luck me reading your experience and definitely like to check it out. Very interesting about Black Cat.

Can’t wait to try some of them.
Audio Art’s slay them on Harmonics .Have top of both and listened to both for months.
On Omega , Gallo, Totem , Rega and Meadowlark .
The Omega Super Alnico Monitor aka SAM is a large single driver 2K$ wonder that has best harmonics I’ve heard , AA  REALLY shines on them .
A “shotgun” configured speaker cable is one like the MIT product of yesteryear. It’s effectively twice the cabling per run from the amp to speaker lugs relative to a single run of speaker cables. 

With that reference in mind, what’s considered as a “double shotgun speaker cable?” Four cables per run from amp to speaker lugs?
Paul recommended the regular (single) cable for high sensitivity speakers, the Shotgun for medium, and the Double Shotgun for low.
John (my cable maker) recommended I double up as well, based on amplifier output and speaker impedance. I doubled from 4 strands to 8 on each cable (so sixteen in total to drive one speaker, 8 in the positive and 8 in the negative paths)