Does anybody read reviews?

The topic of the influx of reviews came up a couple of weeks ago. I suggested at that time that A'gon should place the reviews in a seperate category or, indeed an entirely seperate forum for reviews which could then be broken down by category (much like the classified section).

I'm pleased to see that so many of you are in agreement. Although this will not resolve the associated problems as noted above (i.e., advertising one's recent purchases; including only glowing comments; not providing system details, etc) it will most certinly provide a better sense of structure and will ease the navigation chore considerably.

What is with the attitudes lately?
First off the reviews are in there own category, secondly no one is forced to read them. How is it that your acting like they are infringing on your forums?
As far as the quality, well some have been good, some not so. I don't believe the people (including myself) who have taken the time and effort to write reviews in the hope of helping people thinking about new equipment deserve the comments above. First it takes a lot to try and write an honest review. Secondly if it some how bothers you that people love there equipment I'm sorry for you. I have tried in my reviews to explain the selection process and the equipment I tried while making the selection. I have praise for the equipment I selected because it was the best of what I tried. So should I say it's bad just to get your approval?
Frankly I'm sickened by the feeling expressed above and can only pray that you're a very small few who have such a problems with the others on this site and there desire to share there systems with others.
Please I beg of the above posters, DO NOT READ REVIEWS. You may learn something, God forbid that happens, and you get exposed to systems you would otherwise never have experience with.

Jadem6, I fear that you misapprehend the thrust of these reservations. Let me say right away (and as I have posted in the past about your contributions) that if all the work contributed to the A'gon reviews was as thorough, thoughtful, and well-written as for instance your own article about your Plinius amp was, I don't for a moment think that I or the others would be spending our time on a thread like this one right now.

Unfortunately, many of the "reviews" I have read can literally teach the reader *nothing* at all. No one here is suggesting that a positive review is automatically invalid. What we are saying is that "reviews" that contain no critical commentary whatsoever - or no context, no specific examples, no comparisions, no detailed descriptions, or are just not communicative or interesting - do not make for particularly worthwhile bedtime reading; no effort and/or ability = no value. No one is making blanket statements about *all* of the reviews; I am surprised that you would even suspect that your own writing might be lumped in with the lackadaisical toss-offs that you undoubtedly must have also seen littering the reviews as of late. You have no reason to take ummbrage, believe me.

Frankly, it seems to me that it is precisely the folks such as yourself who will suffer the most from such "reviews" diluting the overall quality of the work archived, because your obvious hard work will become overlooked, swamped in a sea of mediocrity that discourages interested parties from digging further. I just *know* that you don't mean to defend those quickie slobs who simply submit a scribble stating that their Symphonic Bombast Mega-Sonic X-15 Rev. 2 is absolutely the greatest thing they've ever heard, and how much they really, really love it the most, period the end! I for one hope that you will truly stand up for yourself, not by taking offense where none is intended, but by joining us in trying to offer some much-needed constructive criticism on the subject, in an attempt to protect the integrity and usefulness of the genuinely valuable reviews like yours. I can only try my best to ensure that when I submit my first formal review under the new format (I've done similar posts in the past, before the catagory existed), my own work will be up to the standards set by your excellent example, but in the meantime, let's all encourage everybody to try their absolute best when they post a review. IMHO, to give any less is insulting to the readers, and damaging to the whole enterprise.

Zaikesman - great response! I was tempted to take exception to the previous response till I went and read his reviews. The cable review was well written and informative. It was what I wish many others were. There was no intention on my part to insult anyone who has written an informative review. I have read reviews of pieces I own when the writer made claims about the quality of the piece which were foolish. I am happy with my amp but when someone says it is as good as amps I have heard and which I know to be better that review serves no purpose to anyone. I just wish I could learn something from most of the reviews but it seems that the good reviews come from the informative thread posters.
I am glad AudiogoN is doing the reviews I wish all of the reviewers were up to the standard of jadem6, twl, or sean. But I will use what I can and forget the ones which are of no help.
Come on you guys, I know there are some more people here who could do *great* reviews, lets see 'em!

Thank-you Zaikesman and Nrchy for taking me out of the general direction of this thread. Maybe we could spend time offering thoughts to make the reviews better and more useful. I do agree that there is a lot of "junk" being written right now, but I would hope people would look into some of the better written material. I have done this by bringing up the reviews of people I believe have offered great suggestions on the forums, people I respect. I read your review Nrchy when it came out and found it helpful. The fact that Audiogon is running a contest where they simply draw names from a hat of those who have written reviews has allowed for some poor results. I assume Audiogon knows that now, but for the present we are stuck. I am hopeful that once this contest passes the "non-reviews" will be deleted. I do know that Audiogon hopes to build a library of reviews on not only new equipment but some of the older "classic" to see how they have held up over time. I think there will be some real eye openers when that starts. What Audiogon is looking for right now are members with the ability and interest to write reviews. I believe they would like to use that pool of people to write future reviews. I can not get into details in that I am not an employee of affiliated but I can say I have spent many hours talking with Arnie at Audiogon and the review idea is simply the tip of the iceberg. Arnie has spent a huge amount of time and money making this the greatest site on the Internet, we have a great future ahead.
I encourage anyone who has the time and ability to write a review to take this opportunity and try to put one together. I have had Arnie critique my reviews trying to build a model for others to follow. I have first tried to explain how my system got to where it is. Secondly tried to show the components I auditioned and lastly tried to compare the equipment I did settle on to that of my past and the equipment I auditioned. I hope my reviews came across showing the strengths but also where other equipment was similar or better. (One thing I am continuing to work on is shortening my reviews, the magazine model is not right for the Internet. I hope we eventually will be able to have printer friendly versions should we want to file some reviews for future use) If the above posters would try to contribute by writing some reviews too, the entire site will benefit, and you may be surprised at what you'll find at the end of the road. I am now in the process of reviewing a pair of Cary 300 mono blocks that are about three years old. This is a serious departure from the direction my system has gone, there are some real surprises I'll write about.
Zaikesman, you have always been a guy I respect on this site, so I thank-you for your words. I believe you are one who could write a very good review if you have the time.