Dunlavy vs JM Lab


I'm thinking about taking the plunge and upgrading my speakers. I'm considering the SC V or VI versus maybe the Mezzo Utopia or Utopia. I'll have to buy used if I go the upper echilon. I'll have the opportunity to demo the DALs but not JMLs. Anyone out there with experience comparing the two please shed some insight. Thanks
gjames
I think that you would find the Dunlavy's "drier" sounding with the JM's sounding a little more "musical". Mind you, i think that the Dunlavy's are probably more "accurate" but what one chooses would be strictly personal preference. The JM Labs have a specific house sound to me that you'll either love or hate. In my personal opinion, they are much like Dynaudio, Morel, etc... They make better raw parts than they do assembled systems. Sean
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Based on my own listening experiences, Sean's comments are accurate. I would add a couple of points: the Dunlavy's are both time- and phase-accurate, which the JM Labs are not, which may partially account for their different "sound" which Sean describes as "dry". The Dunlavy's may be better suited to combined audio/home theater use than the JM Labs, and infact are the speakers of choice with several home theater reviewers (see Widescreen Review mag for a listing of their equipment).

Some audio reviewers have criticized the large Dunlavy models for having a distinct "large enclosure" quality that draws attention to itself, rather than "disappearing" as some speakers seem to do. The same reviewers have also noted that the Dunlavy SC-IV model seems to have a less-pronounced "box" sound than their large models. Of the two speakers under discussion, the JM Labs speakers seem -- to my ear -- to call attention to themselves less than the large Dunlavy's.

I am not as emphatic as Sean about either loving or hating the JM Labs family sound (the same might be said about the Dunlavy "family" of speakers), although I agree there is a clear family resemblance among the middle and upper-priced models. I personally find the JM Labs models I have heard to be somewhat euphonic, which is also characteristic of other French-made audio electronics I've experienced (sort of the opposite side of the coin from a lot of German-made audio gear).

Given the amount of money you are planning to spend for either of these speakers, I really think you should find a way to audition both of them at some length. These speakers sound sufficiently different from each other that you may like one but not the other, and it's a lot of money to spend without some demo sessions.

I have a couple of questions in return for you, and the answers may be relevant to the speaker you ultimately select:
1. what are the dimensions of your listening room (all of these speakers are large)?
2. will you be using your Classe amps to drive the speakers?
3. will the speakers be used solely for music reproduction, or will they also do double duty for home theater? (I note that you have a surround pre/pro and multi-channel amp in your system.)
Scott, i agree that both product lines have a "house" or "family sound" ( as do most companies ), it's just that i find the JM's "flavour" to be far more noticeable than the Dunlavy's. I wish i could put the sound that i hear in my head with the JM's into an understandable language. Every time that i listen to them, i hear a specific "wooden" sound characteristic. Mind you, I have heard this effect with different cables and in different systems. It is not a "boxy effect" where the sound has limited dispersion, etc... it has to do with tonal balance. I do agree that they tend to sound "creamier" or more romantic / euphonic than the Dunlavy's.

The funny thing is, i recently lent a local dealer some Goertz MI-2's to check out. After putting them into his system at home, he complained that he heard a very pronounced colouration on everything that he played. While he could not find the words to actually describe the effect, he said that everything sounded "wooden". I had to laugh out loud at that. You see, not only had i heard the effect that he was talking about in other systems, he was using JM Lab's speakers at home. I told him that i think that he had finally heard what his speakers REALLY sounded like : )

I do agree that at this price and size point, someone interested in speakers of this nature really does need to familiarize themselves with the various offerings that they are interested in. Large speakers, especially those with the multiple drivers and wide spacing between those drivers, require bigger rooms and a more distant seated listening position. That is, if you want to get the best performance from them. Sean
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Sdcampbell, when you say that the Dunlavy speakers are time- and phase-accurate while the JM Lab speakers are not, what does this mean? How can one hear the difference between speakers that are accurate in these ways and ones that are not?