Heard Maggie 3.7i with..


...a Rogue Cronus Magnum driving them. The combo sounded surprisingly great. I was surprised that a 100 wpc amp could drive them so well. Anyone else have experience with "low" powered amps and Maggies. When I've had Maggies, I've always had amps in the 150 to 250 (8 ohms) range.  Though I now have Golden Ear Triton1s, I think I will eventually have Maggies again. I've heard the Cronus with T1 and it's also a great combo. 

I guess the point of all this is that while I generally believe you should choose speakers first and then choose the amp to drive them, I'm thinking of getting the Rogue now and the Maggies in the future. Mistake? Thoughts?
secretguy
I drove my Triton 1 speakers with a Rogue Cronus Magnum for a year and found the sound to be pretty good. Since that system is in my home office and I was spending 8-10 hours a day in there with the system always on, I started to obsess about the tube life. Eventually, I sold the Rogue and bought a 200wpc McIntosh solid state integrated.  It sounded 1000% better. 
OK...to clarify: Is it a mistake to choose and amp before you decide on speakers?

Yes you should choose the speakers you like and THEM pick an amplifier that is great with THOSE SPEAKERS. If you are unsure about the speakers I would not buy an amplifier now.MAC is not the company it once was.. (new owners) Just saying.. DOA product. Poor service...If I were suggesting an amplifier to try with Magnepans.. Bryston.
  Elizabeth, on what specific basis are you criticizing McIntosh? Is it because it has new owners? Is that the objective criteria for saying it not the company it once was? I've had Mc products for 39 years, including during several owner changes.I own 12 McIntosh units. I have not noticed  a decline in quality. As for your claims of poor service, what was that about? I have 39 years of outstanding service from McIntosh. So, just what are you talking about?
@scorpio1951  That's easy.  In my shop we had the enjoyment of trading in very early Mc stuff and ordering and playing new Mc stuff--1970's.  Build quality was good--many new ones required return to the factory for service soon after putting into a system although none were DOA.  With Audio Research, not so lucky.

The issue was that the Audio Research stuff reproduced the music more accurately than the Mc stuff did.  That's about as easy as I can explain it.  Glad you enjoy your Mc stuff.  Decent markup for the dealer in it, so it is a good sale.  Have no idea what they have done since 1980, so you are on your own there.

Cheers.
 So in other words your experience with McIntosh is limited to the 70's and that is it, at least as I understand it. All the many Mac units I have bought since 1980 have performed beautifully, and no DOAs at all. I think in all these years that I have had three units need repair. As for Audio Research, let's ask them for their opinions about their components. And how does your answer go back to your statement of DOA and poor service about McIntosh?
Fan boys fan. What can I say.
Agree MAC sound is second rate.
Every time I have heard MAC gear it clearly is living up to the comparison to 1970’s Japanese receivers it sounds like. Dense, veiled, and great for an expensive table radio. But not a lot more. Sure it has those blue meters... What’s not to like?                
Who cares if I dislike the MAC house sound? If it bothers you that someone thinks it is junk.. Why does that bother you? Not sure??? Need reinforcement  to calm your insecurity?
There are many McIntosh haters in this world.  It is usually because they can't afford them so they bash them.   I have 6 Mac pieces that perform flawlessly and all have been made within the last 10 years.  I have been to the factory twice for a tour and they make almost everything in house with the exception of the logic chips, etc.  They even make their own glass faceplates and they are made in the USA in New York, not Canada.

The most recent problems with just a very few Mac amps was due to a faulty logic chip that they do NOT manufacture.  You really are clueless about McIntosh equipment.  It's the sum of all the parts, the feel of the controls and YES, the BIG BLUE METERS.  Your statement above shows your true mentality.  Grow up and stop bashing others equipment.  Your comments coming from a Bryston and Pangea fangirl really make me laugh!
I have no problem with you laughing at my choices. I have no need to impress you with my equipment. All I need is to listen to it.And I zeroed in on the MAC owner: Where you wrote: " It’s the sum of all the parts, the feel of the controls and YES, the BIG BLUE METERS."
Yup. You fully agree with my comment about ’blue meters’. LOL                
You don't like my stuff? (and it seems your insulting my junk as way more 'tit for tat' than not anyway. LOL)  I don't like yours. Who cares? you seem to care? As I wrote if you are worried and need assurance? Not gonna get it from me. MAC sound is second rate, I can only write what it sounds like to me.

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There are two sensible routes:

1.  Listening habits>room acoustics>speakers>amplification

2.  Decor>listening habits>speakers>amplification

I am not a fan of route 2, but I will hazard a guess most purchasing decisions follow that progression.
So much for the op’s question. This turned out to be another mc v. Others discussion. We all like what we like because it’s subjective. Let’s just agree we all like music and all have different hearing. 
PLENTY of audiophiles "can’t stand me". I chalk it up to two things: First I am not Kissing any dudes behind for any reason. A whole pile of men can’t stand an ’Uppity Woman’.       
I clearly know as much as most other audiophiles. I am not here to ask for assistance. I am handing it out. Another strike against me for being a Woman. (Knows way too much.)
You post shows it clear as can be when you add it (what you think is an insult, but is totally an indictment against your own attitude) writing: "" While others may kiss up to you because you are one of the few or only woman here "" SO you actually think others hold me up due to my being ’one of the few women here" ??
I suggest it is because I say what I think. No holds barred. And I know audio stuff, and to the best of my ability I tell the truth about my experiences in audio... It has ZERO to do with my being a Woman.



@secretguy, what if you end up not getting a pair of the 3.7i? Why not wait, and get an amp when you get the speakers. The dealer may make you a good package price offer. Plus, by the time you get the speakers, there may be a newly-introduced amp that works particularly well with them---like the Sanders Magtech, but at half its' price.
Yah...I knew that, of course. I've just had the urge to buy something. LOL...and my current situation rules out Maggies. Although I wish I hadn't sold mine.
I often agree with Elizabeth in most matters, but my own experience with 3.6 Maggies and McIntosh MC501 mono block amps is quite different.

I went through a number of amps 9 years ago, and my journey ended with a tube McIntosh pre amp and my 501s.

The magic in the room is palpable to me.  Everyone has different ears and preferences, but I can feel Eva Cassidy in the room singing.  I alao love to rock out with the Allman Bros Band and Cream as well as listen to the detail of Dave Brubeck in Time Out.

My point is, let your ears tell you what you like and what is best for you.  McIntosh has many fans And detractors.  They are a bit of a lightening rod, but listen before deciding from what people say here, Including Me.
Because you are a Woman? Please, that has nothing to do with it. Maybe it's because if we don't spend 50K on a system with every expensive cable & placebo gadget on the market we don't even rate. It seems to be all about the money with you & how much you got to spend.
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jeffwyo with 8 posts and joined November 21, 2018? And that means you have read all 6000 plus posts over 15 years I have written?You're new and I forgive you. (usually I would just rip someone complaining about or to me to shreds )                        
One point about my, and others, commenting on what was spent. It is not bragging, it is reporting so folks who read understand what the cost was. If the writer does NOT include the cost very often another poster will ask. So one gets into the habit of stating right up front what it cost. The cost offers a framework, not to brag, or gloat, but to allow anyone to know what sort of level of stuff in being discussed Just saying..    Particularly if it is currently on sale, So others can get the deal if so inclined. 
Unusual for me, after eight years of few upgrades except a couple of cables, I really went all out in 2018. So a lot of my posts this year are about what I bought... How it changed what I hear, any problems (particularly with the Furutech duplex changing sound back and forth)Plenty of others enjoy reading about stuff others acquire. And want to know all about it.(to the point they are outraged I will not hand them a full review)                             
BTW I have never insulted anyone over having a small or inexpensive system, I say anyone who enjoys music and wants something to listen to it is an audiophile.               
See. I can play nice.
ihasaguy. Thank you for your experience. I agree it is a personal thing. Glad you enjoy your setup. 
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For stereo5. Just to let you know, I will not remember you. But I bet you may not forget me. To me you are just one more of thousands of guys who whine cuz’ they didn’t like what I wrote.
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Someone should have deleted most of this post.
I did want to know about Maggies and power options
but the non sense level here is wasting my time.
For all anybody knows, half of the members here could be female. Why you wonder? Because of the endless & stupefyingly idiotic, and uncreative, usernames. 

At least Elizabeth and I use our real names, or at least the names of actual people. 

Enough with the gender bashing / assumptions. Women have better hearing than men by the way. Biological fact, like it or not. Heck I trust Elizabeth's opinions over my own (well, neck & neck). 

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Hey Happy New Year everyone. I’ve driven my 3.7i with a Parasound Hint and a Pass 250.8. The Parasound was great but when I switched to the Pass it had much better and firmer control of the bottom end. Maggie’s like getting high current . I’ve seen some high watt amps out there but they lack in current.
If you enjoy the Rogue and have heard it with your future speakers go for it. You could give Rogue a call and ask what they think of the paring, I find most manufacturers are honest about their products. I've had some tell me not to buy theirs for certain match ups.
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