HELP: how to compensate too laid-back source

i have the sa8260 in a all solid state system.

you might want to give it 3-4 weeks to break in (leave it on all the time) and have it on a very stable platform.

btw, you cant make a comparsion with your interconnects......dont get me wrong, i use monster 2.4s with my alon II's ( it is their only decent cable), but you dont know what you are missing with those PIS interconnects.

as far as interconnects i have had very good results with wireworld eclipse 5(unbalanced) between the 8260 and my audio research ls-12 and xlo signiture II's( seconds from fatwyre) running balanced to pse studio v mono blocks.

both are pretty amazing cables and are synergistic in my system in that combination. the xlo is the most neutral cable i have heard to date with incredible bottom end-imaging and grain free. the wireworld eclispe 5 does amazing things in the midrange and plummets the depths of bass. again that is MY system and my taste....

i have tried different cardas models (from golden cross to neural reference) and wasnt a good fit, differnt taras, transparent ( very cohearent cable but too rolled off), and coincident, harmonic,zen...etc looking for sonic nirvana..

if you want to run all the same kind....i would have to reccomend the wireworld eclipse V...it is revealing, detailed, but without being bright.

hope that helps !!!

mike

Just don't get me wrong, I didn't intend to save on interconnects! :) I haven't yet chose which ones I need (I asked this question about my recent NAD, and as a result I sold the NAD, but didn't get the ICs :). I was thinking about AZ Matrix Ref mkII, but with Marantz I guess they are way too warm. My purpose now is to find IC that can open mid- and top-end without being bright or grain, and retain the beautiful midrange and amazing bass (never thought my Revels M20 can do THAT bass).
Just curious, how Nordost Blue Heaven would be there?

Dmitrydr, like the other poster here, I think a cable swap may be a good place to begin.

I'm using Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II, Matrix II and Hologram II in my system and enjoy the sound very much. The Silver Ref II and Matrix Ref II do sound very different, the Silver Ref II is leaner and more detailed because of its silver composition and the Matriz Ref II is fuller and rounder because of its copper design. But they share a signature AZ smoothness, and work well together in the same chain.

I used to own the Simaudio Moon I-5 as well, and am quite familiar with its sometimes thin, bright nature. Cardas Golden Cross helped to tame it to an extent, but I realize your problem is the opposite of what I experienced with the I-5 three years ago.

A recent thread commented on the differences between Cardas Golden Cross and Acoustic Zen Matrix Ref II interconnects. I never did a direct comparison, but the other posters did. They remarked that the Matrix shared the same smoothness and warmth of the Cardas, but with better extension on the top end along with a bigger soundstage.

While the Silver Ref II is by no means a bright cable, it is silver and will therefore be leaner than the Matrix Ref II. I think the Matrix Ref II may help you and will definitely be a big step above the Monster cable you're using. It's also half the cost of the Silver Ref II.

You should be able to snag a used Matrix Ref II for about $350.

I agree with Slappy, except that I think that you've already done it...backwards! I suspect that the Marantz has a much warmer presentation (and more perceived bass) simply because its top octaves are rolled compared to the more neutral NAD, and that has you cuddled up in its warm 'n cozy presentation...most of the time.
So try a fast, linear interconnect like a Blue Heaven or Pro Silway MkII. If still too laid back I'd return to the NAD or save some money and wait for the cheaper NAD 521BEE and maybe put a Harm Tech Truthlink on it like I probably will in November. Linear but not TOO wide open.
Probably easier to start by replacing the Monster with the Nordost or Harm Tech and maybe my PCK13Q+G power cord for a cleaner, linear presentation as well (RSVP), in the event that the culprits are just a cheap rolled off cables. If it's still too laid back for you then get another front end if necessary. The cables will still probably be fine for any CLEAN-topped CDP. Have fun. Ern

It's interesting what CD players have NAD's neutrality but significantly better resolution?
I'm quite confused: complex classical music was almost unlistenable on NAD, but a acoustic music from MA recordings sounded pretty good and natural, better then on Marantz. How to get both in one? I want smooth symphonic and chorals as well as naturally sounding drums from MA...

Ern, you may be right about a reason of "warm 'n cozy presentation... most of the time", but I think Marantz indeed produces much more bass... Well it's not an excuse for too laid-back sound :)