Frogman, precisely what is being discussed? The conversation I see is bouncing around like a pin ball in a pin ball machine. Why don't you specify a conversation with defined parameters and we'll discuss that.
Jazz for aficionados
Jazz for aficionados
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
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Acman3, well done! And in more ways than one; I believe you know what I mean but that. Fantastic posts and excellent example of contrasting styles of jazz piano +2. If your series of clips do not dispel any doubt about the influence of Classical composers on jazz players, I dont know what would. Art Tatum's take on D'vorak's "Humoresque", Bud Powell who also recorded "Bud On Bach", John Lewis' "Abstractions", and Mingus' "Epitaph" which owes so much to Charles Ives; all great. For substance and timeliness, I nominate your series of posts as a contender for "best" post of this thread. Wait!....too dangerous; "best" has never taken us anywhere positive. Still, well done! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HVk9xFLHAWY https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=viVQEYVsCC4 |
Hi guys - Rok has provided over the last day or so a perfect example of what I was talking about with O-10....sigh, indeed. Frogman, this is reminding me of a certain John Cleese video from about a year ago. O-10, I generally visit this site once a day, usually late in the evening after I get home from work. Sometimes two or three days will go by, but I have been an avid follower of everything on this thread even when not posting. The reason I hadn't responded to all these posts today is that I hadn't seen them until late this evening. All I have to say about this: "Rok, no matter what you say they will never get it." is that I think it is abundantly clear from all of the posts from others on this thread is that it is you and Rok that will not ever get it. Like I said, I will give up on my appeals for you guys to actually study music a little, but I will not stop correcting things that are just flat out wrong. Though I will add in response to Rok's post that there are plenty of great music history books out there that will answer all of his questions. There is a very popular one by Joseph Kerman called Listen, that comes with a big record set, though it is probably on CDs nowadays. It is a very basic overview of the entire history of music all the way up to jazz and the Beatles, and may have had subsequent updates from when it was my Intro to Music Lit text my freshman year, in the mid 80s. Very readable, with great musical examples. The only specific I will answer here is that I do not see how one can truly separate the structure of music from the artistic part of it - form is part of the artistry, part of the craft. This is true, by the way, of improvising as well - improvisation must have structure to be understandable. Something that must be PRACTICED. :) |
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