Jazz for aficionados

Here's some "hate speech."  I hate musical elitists.  Although that makes me a bit of a hypocrite, because a lot of new "music" is no-talent awful.  :)

Sfoth, would you mind to further elaborate? What would be a musical elitist, in your opinion?
 Do you consider all music to be of 'equal worth'?
Do you believe that perhaps music can not be called as 'good' or 'bad' ?
I do not argue that anybody can prefer what ever he likes, but liking or relativization that follows it can not be set as principle of 'worth'.
Would you agree?

Ghosthouse, and Acman; we've been down this road many times before, I suggest you ignore it.

Did you click on the link for the female vocalist?

@alexatpos .  This could be quite the rabbit hole.  Mostly a joke, if a poor one, but, for me, most simply, it's the snobbery and, perhaps in clearthink's words, prejudice and self-righteousness.  "Worth" has little to do with my opinion.  "I'm a better, more complete, person, because I listen to X.  You are a mindless, inattentive, simpleton and follower, because you waste your time spacing out to Y and won't or can't appreciate X."  Or, perhaps, "You just need Bose cubes, because you listen to Y.  Anything better is wasted on your dumb ass."

Anyway, there absolutely are combined elements of relativism and subjectivity in viewing the "worth" of music or art.  To go further, one might spend some time examining the purpose of music, if there is one.  Is it to move the soul, to evoke an emotional response, to get closer to God, to provide an escape or distraction, to feed some glitch in the lizard brain, to fulfill pre-destined expression of a mathematic imperative, to enhance communication, etc.?  Is that purpose static across time, cultures, and/or multiple areas of human development (e.g., politics, technology, mathematics, etc.)?

So, sure, there's bad music and good music.  Thought that might be clear in the "hypocrite" comment.  I'd like the low-res vocal auto-tuner to be retired, for example, but I don't think folks who like it are beneath me.



As to the OP.  John Coltrane, A Love Supreme.

@orpheus10
Okay - I am playing your Dakota Staton tracks. Think you got a duplicate in there. 2 of Green Dolphin Street. Recorded NYC 1960... Woulda been 8 years old. Every morning up for school, my pop getting ready to leave for work. Old gray plastic AM radio tuned to WOR’s Rambling with Gambling (Pack Up Your Troubles was his theme song). Probably played something like this on that station at that time. Music from another era for me. I know less about female vocalists from back then than I do about jazz (which already ain’t a lot!).

Dakota has a powerful voice but it has a bit of an edge to my ear. I do like Dakota’s phrasing and expressiveness in Cry Me a River.
(Not to get ridiculous but the beginning of that Cry Me a River sure sounds like Bond movie theme music. Wonder who borrowed from whom?)

Sorry can’t offer any greater insight on your Ms. Staton. Post the 3rd link you intended. I will check that out.

I heard something in a popular context a long time ago. Sarah Vaughn doing the honors. Made an impression (hang with it to 1:10)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nk4lhxKK6k&ab_channel=JFWILLIAMBILL

Something from earlier in her career. She makes it seem effortless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs58v0rKQgY&ab_channel=VanAllesWat33

I just listened to that 3 times in a row. Not sure you can get much closer to perfection.

But like I already said, I know next to nothin’ ’bout these women singers.

PS - I enjoyed the Curtis Fuller "Five Spot After Dark". Seems an odd little piece. Not sure why. Nobody plays over the top. Gives it a restrained kind of late autumn feel to me. I seem to always like Tommy Flanagan’s piano.