Peter, I have a speed controller for my table so I don’t have to move the belt when I want to play a 45RPM record; the controller has a three digit digital readout showing the speed. I will claim it’s as accurate as your motor that runs on 60 cycles straight from the wall. Furthermore, I can use a paper stroboscope to confirm if the table is running correctly if for some reason I would want to do that. I do not believe that most turntables are direct drive; at their most popular, they probably only had half the market back in the 80’s. I would wager that at present, of ten turntable owners, maybe two of them will be DD. Edit: I went and checked the specs on my speed box; it is plus or minus .001% I don't know the stated accuracy of any DD tables but I would be surprised if they are any more accurate than that.
Looking for a mid-priced TT to install my 2M Black Cart
I am in the process of shopping of maximizing the value of some of my second system and doing some strategic upgrades. my first TT was the Project Carbon Debut DC with an Ortofon 2M Red (MM). I upgraded that to the 2M Black (MM) and it turned it into a great rig (to a point).
I am very aware. that the 2M Black exceeds the capabilities of the TT, so as I optimize this second system, I am looking for a good turntable that would provide a significant sonic improvement over the Project Debut Carbon, and would match well with the 2M Black. I would like to keep it below $1500 (ideally under $1000).
I am leaving out the other details of my system to keep this focused on the TT and not have this turn into a poll of what part of my rig's chain I should optimize next... ;-).
Just want some TT options under $1.5K that will help the 2M open up even more!
Thanks!
I am very aware. that the 2M Black exceeds the capabilities of the TT, so as I optimize this second system, I am looking for a good turntable that would provide a significant sonic improvement over the Project Debut Carbon, and would match well with the 2M Black. I would like to keep it below $1500 (ideally under $1000).
I am leaving out the other details of my system to keep this focused on the TT and not have this turn into a poll of what part of my rig's chain I should optimize next... ;-).
Just want some TT options under $1.5K that will help the 2M open up even more!
Thanks!
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Differences SL1210GR and SL1210Mk7?? @twoleftears you can compare models here, the prices below are from U.S. dealer posted in the end of my Technics thread The Technics SL-1000R is $18000.00 The SL-1200G is $3995.00 and SL-1200GR is half price The new SL-1500C is $1399.00 The new DJ Version SL-1200Mk7 is $1199.00 - this is the cheapest new Technics at the moment |
@bsmg The only advantage of direct drive is high torque and more stable speed. The extra vibration and noise from a direct drive turntable is why I would not have one. I have 6 direct drive turntables and can't detect any noise from any of them, they are all so heavy that i can not detect a vibration. My turntable has one belt. Don’t know where you’ve been the past 40 years or so but you may notice that the best turntables are not direct drive. I am not that old to be in this hobby for 40 years, but i live with Direct Drive turntables for more than 20 years and in the past 5 years upgrading them. Can't imagine i could operate a belt drive. The only DD ones I can think of are Japanese. Wait, VPI is coming out with some sort of 40th anniversary DD table (they must be cleaning out their warehouse of extra parts). ONLY Japanese, yes. One of the most affordable High-End DD is Technics SP-10 mkII, Denon DP-80, Victor TT-81, but my favorite is Luxman PD-444. They are all vintage. Not sure who need a VPI 40th Anniversary when Technics made 100th Anniversary SP-10R $8,999 |
@noromance this is for a secondary system. I am not passing through a vinyl trend. I have a dedicated listening room with acoustic engineering built in with some great equipment. That’s a whole separate conversation. This is really just about maximizing value of my 2m black that is being shortchanged by the debut carbon it’s connected to in a sub $15k bedroom system. Interesting to see the debate on DD vs belt drive, personally I think brinkman makes the best TTs available and both their DD and belt models are impressive. I thing that is what happens with very good engineering... you can achieve great results with either with the proper engineering and implementation. This is is a great conversation though and appreciate everyone weighing in! Keep it coming.... |
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