Loudspeakers have we really made that much progress since the 1930s?


Since I have a slight grasp on the history or loudspeaker design. And what is possible with modern. I do wonder if we have really made that much progress. I have access to some of the most modern transducers and design equipment. I also have  large collection of vintage.  I tend to spend the most time listening to my 1930 Shearer horns. For they do most things a good bit better than even the most advanced loudspeakers available. And I am not the only one to think so I have had a good num of designers retailers etc give them a listen. Sure weak points of the past are audible. These designs were meant to cover frequency ranges at the time. So adding a tweeter moves them up to modern performance. To me the tweeter has shown the most advancement in transducers but not so much the rest. Sure things are smaller but they really do not sound close to the Shearer.  http://www.audioheritage.org/html/profiles/lmco/shearer.htm
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Mike

Hi Mike & Al,

     I'm thinking back to the late 70's & early 80's.  We hand measured all our own drivers, we listened to each driver individually for beaming/dispersion characteristics, based upon the basics of each driver, we chose crossover slopes for the drivers character and to maximize phase and time alignment... Yes,  even then at least at Marcof, we practiced time and phase alignment.  We would then build the piece, listen extensively and make changes based upon our sessions.  It was quite a process. 

Today, as long as the measurements are correct,  I can run a program and know with a high degree of accuracy pretty dog on close what a speaker will sound like.... Its never far off like "wow, that fooled me"....

Yes, after listening  there is tweaking, but these days, it usually isn't much. The big deal is to understand what different slopes and combination of slopes sound like.  Looking at Frequency and phase charts carefully and then proper choice of slopes and frequency of crossover, you can come fairly close maintaining decent phase slopes using odd order crossovers,  its not always 6db per octave slopes required like so many believe that you must have. 

Ok,  a bit off subject, but I wanted to add to the earlier comments.

Tim

Thanks, Tim.  Your insights into speaker design are always constructive and informative.

Best regards,
-- Al
 
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