Rodman, I hear ya! There's another group that fit right in with your louder/longer/shorter group, and that's the ones in the trucks that think they have a tough vehicle because it makes alot of noise. They floor it and think it's really movin', but it's just another few tons of slow moving loud, obnoxious, noise. As far as feeling sorry for them, I just feel they're a sorry lot.
My wife and I moved from Wisconsin to Michigan to get away from that noisy area. We built a nice place out in the country, and wouldn't you know it, some of the same crap moved in a couple miles down the road. At least it's not constant. And the most ironic part, is that the fella who had the loudest bike back there in Wisconsin was the guy who bought our house!
