Running dedicated AC mains .... need advice ....
I don`t know about all the tech talk above but, a company called "Tributaries" known for cables, IC`s etc. also makes "Audiophile" grade house wireing, Romax, better than the stuff at Big Box Lumber etc. I had a 20' run installed as a seperate line feeding my monoblocks. and it looks purdy too, bright orange so your friends know....! |
timtim A word of caution. What you are doing may not be legal. You must bond all grounds. Even in isolated outlets you still bond the all ground wires, thats why there are 4 wires for isolated outlets and not 3 wires like standard house wiring. You will not be able to that the way you are doing it. You could have issues with the insurance company if your house gets set on fire from those electriacal feeds. You may be able to cut the end off a cord and terminate it in the wall. Electical romex feeds are not meant to go diractly to any source equipment. Check local electrical codes, because what you can do in one city or state does not mean you can't do it in another. |
I agree with all of the excellent cautionary statements that have been made. I want to clarify that the suggestions in my previous post (the third post in this thread) did not mean to suggest anything contrary to these cautions. I assume that there is and will continue to be a bond between ac neutral, safety ground, and earth ground at the main entrance of power into the house, near the breaker panel. For all existing runs, and for the new ones that may be added. The earth ground is essential for lightning protection, and the bonding of ac neutral and safety ground at that physical location is essential for effective circuit breaker operation, as the paper Jea48 linked to makes clear. And, yes, it seems likely that not having outlet receptacles may be a code violation. But to restate the point I was trying to make: The downside of having dedicated runs to different parts of the system is increased voltage differential between the chassis of the different components, particularly at high frequencies, which can result in noise currents flowing through the same cable shields as signal return currents, thereby effectively summing the noise into the signal (the very thing that having multiple ac runs is intended to improve). Connecting the grounds of the different runs together, near the system, will minimize those voltage differences. Jea may very well be correct that tying that local system ground to an earth rod will not accomplish anything, but I don't envision that it would have any negative effects either (in terms of either safety or performance). A better approach all around, though, may be to utilize isolation transformers, as described by Zargon in this thread: http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?htech&1228780109 Regards, -- Al |
The earth shall not be considered as an effective ground-fault current path. From 2005 NEC 250.4 (A) 5 The earth does not have some magical mystical power that sucks AC noise from our audio systems. More and more audio equipment manufacturers are building their equipment with double insulated AC power wiring thus eliminating the need for an equipment ground. They are finding the use of an equipment ground causes more problems than the added cost of the double insulated power wiring. Stray voltage . |
The earth shall not be considered as an effective ground-fault current path. True, but the presence of such a path will do no harm as long as the proper path is also present, at the service entrance (that proper path presenting a much lower impedance to fault current than the extraneous path, as diagrammed in Whitlock's paper). The earth does not have some magical mystical power that sucks AC noise from our audio systems. Agreed. As I admitted, you are likely correct that a ground rod near the system would accomplish nothing. More and more audio equipment manufacturers are building their equipment with double insulated AC power wiring thus eliminating the need for an equipment ground. They are finding the use of an equipment ground causes more problems than the added cost of the double insulated power wiring. That's interesting; maybe one of the problems they are finding is exactly what I was describing -- voltage offsets in safety grounds causing noise currents to flow through signal return paths, a problem which would be eliminated if signal ground and ac safety ground were not both tied to chassis. Stray voltage Interesting paper, but it doesn't seem to be particularly relevant, and I don't think it makes its case completely. His theme seems to be that cost reduction measures taken by utility companies cause ac return paths to power company equipment to be partially through the earth, instead of entirely through their wires, and that that is somehow harmful to people and animals. But I didn't see any explanation of how that current flow might result in significant voltage difference across any individual animal or person, other than brief mention of in-ground swimming pools (and I'd want to see more evidence or quantitative explanation before concluding that he is right in that case). In any event, I don't think his paper has relevance to connecting an audio system ac safety ground to earth, when a very nearby connection to earth of that same ac ground would exist at the service panel. Thanks for the interesting read, though! Best for the holidays and new year, -- Al |
