Speaker wire is it science or psychology

You asked for and I finally found it(it took a while for me to find but I knew I had it). A scientific study that proves not only that there are MEASUREABLE differences between ALL cables, read it and weap. Check out Hi-Fi News & Record Review Febuary 1997 there is a very impressive camparsion of 11 cables (including generic PVC insulated 1mmsquared CSA stranded, 'tinned' copper wire which is a twisted pair. In the test the measure R-L-C data, audio precision DSCT3RES compared to frequency response and dynamic suppression error at various frequencies; I hope that is enough "Scientific" proof for you. Get a hold of Hi-Fi News at 1-800-875-2997 or write to:
Hi-Fi News & Record Review
PO Box 3000
Denville NJ 07834
or you may even try getting a hold of Kimber Kable seeing as there cable 'won' the comparison they may have a copy or two lieing around. Now I hope this is enough proof that cables do sound different Stevemj so stop preaching zip cord fables and look at the facts and not audio myth. Feel free to ask any question about the article you would like I have it right in front of me, it took me a while to find it but it is out there. That's that :>)TIREGUY I RULE!!!!!

I have stayed out of this thread for the sole reason that it can not be concluded. I just read through all of the above posts and as always find it quite fun to see the holes we dig. If anyone can say with a straight face they here no difference between cables and wires on a high definition system then I believe they are deaf or liars. If you require the scientific proof, first in my opinion that alone makes for a sad audiophile but secondly means the enjoyment of audio is in the numbers and not the listening. If you must have proof, please read my post from 03/08/01 in "Blind Listening Tests???? I believe this is indeed proof of this unsolvable problem and a good description of how seriously I tend to take the scientific proof offered on this site. High end audio for me is about the quality of sound reproduction, not the science of audio! Thank-you and have a good read, J.D.

Thanks Tireguy, I will get and check it out.

tireguy - What gauge wire were they using, how long was it and what roughly was the db variation in frquency response? Was it mostly in the high frequencies or in the mid and lows as well? Thanks.

It is hard to say what gauge wire because this magizine comes from the UK and they use mm2 to determine what we call gauge. Most of the wires used it does not tell gauge and also it is hard to make out how long the cables where(it is shown in a smallish box entitled Fig. (3) Test Set up) but if I had to guess on what I can see I would say 5.6m. Most of the cables sort of spiked at 1.00k or so and sort of tapered off toward 11.0k some nearly vanishing off of the graph before the 11.0k mark and some had wierd peaks and valleys. I hope this answers your question a little bit also there are some references listed you may be interested in looking into them:
1.)"The Essex Echo" by Malcolm Hawksford found HFN/RR, Aug '85, Oct '86 and Feb '87
2.)"Speaker cables: Case proven" by Ben Duncan, Proc. Institute of Acoustics, Nov 1995 Also published in Studio Sound (UK) and Stereophile (USA), Dec 1995
3.)"Effects of cable, loudspeaker and amplifier interactions", By Fred E Davies, JAES June 1991
4.)"Black Box" by Ben Duncan, HFN/RR, March 1996
5.)The Genesis Report, QED. tel 01276 451166 this document is low on rigour and is filled with punctuation and spelling errors, but contain creative ideas on demonstrating cable effects.

I hope this will help you on your quest for the "Truth"

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