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The CD player is dead.......

I am still waiting for someone to explain why a cd player is superior to storing music on a hard drive and going to a dac. Probably because you all know it's not.

Every cd player has a dac. I'll repeat that. Every cd player has a dac. So if you can store the ones and zeros on a hard drive and use error correction JUST ONCE and then go to a high end dac, isn't that better than relying on a cd player's "on the fly" jitter correction every time you play a song? Not to mention the convenience of having hundreds of albums at your fingertips via an itouch remote.

If cd player sales drop, then will cd sales drop as well, making less music available to rip to a hard drive?
Maybe, but there's the internet to give us all the selection we've been missing. Has anyone been in a Barnes and Noble or Borders lately? The music section has shown shrinkage worse than George Costanza! This is an obvious sign of things to come.....

People still embracing cd players are the "comb over" equivalent of bald men. They're trying to hold on to something that isn't there and they know will ultimately vanish one day.

I say sell your cd players and embrace the future of things to come. Don't do the digital "comb over".
devilboy
mlsstl
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Lloydc wrote:
I am puzzled by claims that data from a hard drive equals data read from a great cd transport. Data has to get onto that HD in the first place.
Huh?

Doesn't data have to "get onto the CD in the first place" also? If not, where does it come from?

Take a trip through a recording studio and with very, very few exceptions you will see all of the music played is being recorded to a hard drive. If hard drives are the fatal flaw, then CDs inherit that fault.

If you listen to a playback in a recording studio, they are going to stream it from a hard drive, not a CD. The CD, by itself, cannot make that recording any better than what was on the studio's hard drive.

I've heard stunning music from systems with open reel, turntables, CDs and hard drives as the source. Implementation is the key (and money doesn't guarantee the door is unlocked.)

I like CDs and still buy them. It's still a great way to add music to my server based system. Their overall sales volume is down from several years ago but CDs will still be around for quite a while.

Ultimately this whole subject is once again about personal preferences. It is inevitable that opinions will vary widely, but just don't forget the parents of the music on that CD almost certainly include a hard drive. ;-)
hesson11
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" I wasn't out to bash anyone. I WAS SIMPLY ASKING SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN THE BENEFITS OF A CDP"

That's not how I read your original post, which contained the following disparaging remark:

"People still embracing cd players are the "comb over" equivalent of bald men. They're trying to hold on to something that isn't there and they know will ultimately vanish one day."

I really thought you were out to bash!
-Bob
devilboy OP
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I was a couple of martinis in when I wrote that last part.
elizabeth
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Resale value: Lp and CD media: great, download: zero.
I was thinking about the pros and cons of music server based music and the one 'night and day' difference is the media has a resale value. (sometimes much greater than purchase) and the stuff on a hard drive has zero resale value, and may be illegal to resell.
I sell used music on LP or CD back to my favorite dealer all the time. Nice to trade in stuff to buy new stuff. With downloads, no way. It's a one time sale.
I really like buying used stuff. 95% or more of my 6,000 Lps were used to start, and about 80% of Cds. I would NOT want to lose that ability to resell. I am certain the music business would like to see the end of the used recording business. Then they will get paid for every transfer of music.
This alone is a good reason I will not be going to a server as my primary music source.
Though the deluge of used CDs on the market is from folks going to music servers and buying MP3's, dumping those CDs.
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mapman
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CD players and all audio for that matter often sound much better after a couple of martinis.

A much more effective tweak often than power cords, ICs, new amps, etc.

IS there anybody that does not believe we hear differently day to day depending on mood, body chemistry, etc.? If not, listen, down a couple of martinis and listen again and see if you hear the same thing.
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