The Cost of Cables


We all know that there have been countless posts with endless debates about cables on every audio forum available. The reason I start this post is to garner thoughts from others on the cost of cables, not necessarily whether they make a difference or not. I find the prices for cables staggering and I (me personally) do not understand where the cost comes from. Some will say R&D, ok, I can go for that to a point, but can the manufacturing of wire really cost much? (In thinking about this, the discussion could be applied to audio as a whole.)

Obviously cable companies survive because we purchase their products, I include myself. But if we quit paying these large prices, would prices fall dramatically or would they just quit making cables such as we know it and/or close their doors?
brianmgrarcom
This is a very interesting thread,well balance opinion
were also being said.I agree for those who can afford
expensive cables they should buy the best cables out there,
One member said,He bought 7k ic,and he thinks its worth it.
His system is also very expensive.How much did it cost the
cable company to make this 7K IC?
After trying to discover which cables is good for the money
I found out an average system like mine did perform well
with pc less than $400,sp cables less than $400,IC less
than $300.My friend made me a speaker cables for less than
$150 it sounds better than most of the $1000 sp cables
I tried in my system.After this experience,I am not willing
to pay more than $500 on any cables.
I also know having the siltech LS 120GS edition years ago.
This cable is on a differrent league, but it is very costly.
Is it worth the price?I say 100% yes.But I cant afford to
keep it.
My only advise to fellow agoners,try different cables in your system from the average price to the more expensive
one,so you will know for yourself.
Good Luck.
systems,
system
Quite frankly, I started this thread because it appears to me that the purchase price of cables are just plain rediculous, but wanted an open discussion if anyone could enlighten me/us differently.

Obviously there is nothing wrong with companies making a profit. But the profit margin on cables would appear to me to FAR exceed that of the rest of the audio industry.

I lay my cards on the table and say that cables make a difference to me from my experience. So with that said, I understand when people say, "if one hears a substantial improvement, the price is worth it to them". It seems to me that cable companies are gouging us for this in comparison to the rest of the industry.

Brian
Well said Brian. Now you seem to grasp the situation.

That being said, I don't have inexpensive cables/cords, I'm probably over the old 20% ratio that cable manufacturers intiated 20 years ago (blame power cords).
However, I still cannot understand those who spend MORE on cables than on their gear and speakers. When your cable budget goes over the 50% level, I have to scratch my head.

I mean $15,000 speaker cables on $10,000 speakers and $13,000 power cord on $8,000 cd players does still confuse me.
Maybe it is the answer, maybe the paradigm has shifted and I'm not aware of it, maybe I just don't get it.

John
John, I can't relate to the prices for cables you refer to. I start scratching at much less than 50%. :-) But I can't blame the manufacturers of any tweaks for getting as much money as they can, while they can. Its the old American free market in full bloom.

And I can't criticize someone who has already optimied his equipment and set up who finally takes the last step in fine tuning the system, regardless of cost. His choice, his preferrences, his ears, his wallet. I would imagine that his expectations would be to get the most neutral yet revealing wire available. I can't imagine him getting wire tone controls although I'm sure that happens.

The person who I do feel for is the wantabe/wantahave who, for example buys an inexpensive SS (or tubed, but I can't imagine it :-)) integrated based on 'user' or reviewer testimonials, matches it to high resolving speakers, and then tries to compensate for the tonal problems by chasing after cables, IC's, and PC's, instead of just investing in, very selectively, some higher quality goods in the first place. FWIW, I think this is what drives a great part of the demand (and prices) for wire, the more exotic appearing, or described, the higher the price.

FWIW
Well said Brian. Now you seem to grasp the situation.
I wouldn't say that I have now gotten a grasp of this situation, I already felt this way; I was open to being shown I am wrong.

Brian