The Trouble with Cartridge Recommendations


I am having an issue with cartridge recommendations. I understand that the best scenario is to test carts in my system with my music in my room. This requires a pretty outstanding relationship with a dealer who has multiple carts on hand. Short of that, is to purchase through a dealer who can recommend a cart and support his recommendation with a fantastic return policy.

Problem is, with the internet at my disposal, I can purchase slightly used carts, demo models, NOS, off shore imports at fractions of the cost of going through a dealer. The up shot is my money goes A LOT further. Problem is, there is no more guaranty that it will suit tastes and existing gear...

Which brings me to this forum and a plead for recommendations based on the collective array of experience.

Let me introduce myself. I have been primarily listening to records for about 15 years and been taking it pretty seriously the last 5-6 years. I love open baffle speakers and well designed tube amps. My friends consistently have very high priced hi fi set ups so I am aware of fantastic analog reproduction. But I need to be more creative with my budget to get the most out of a dollar.

Music tastes are hard pin point. I have about 5-6 records that represent my main tastes and NEED to sound fantastic for me to be happy, the artists are: Nick Drake, Syd Barrett, OutKast, Jesus Lizard, The Dirty Three, and The shangri-las...

My system (which I enjoy and would like to keep as is):
VPI Classic 1 (standard)
PS Audio GCPH (phono stage)
Eico HF81 (fully rebuilt integrated amp)
GR Research V1 (OB speakers with Servo Sub Bass)

My ideal cart throws a huge sound stage with fantastic dynamics. Detailed low end with impact and smooth treble. I like a pinpoint centre image. I can give up the most precise detail and accuracy for pleasure and engagement.

Keeping in mind that I would like to do this on a reasonable budget is key. I will be searching for any deal I can find once I narrow my search. My short list is:
ZYX R100
Dynavector 20x
Benz Glider
Shelter 501 (901)

So thanks for reading this, and please let me know what you all think. I will certainly respond with any further info and I will also try to contribute myself to re-pay the advice I get here.
srbedard
Well, if I were a VPI user, I would certainly consider the Soundsmith cart's including the Zephyr that is meant for their 'tables. Technically, you must remember that the MC vs MM argument doesn't really apply here since the Soundsmith's are Moving Iron designs. A good MI has a lower stylus tip mass than even the most highly prized (and praised) MC. I've had great sound from Dynavector, but I think you may want to look higher in the line than the 20 for long term enjoyment. I forget the model since I can't use it with my MM phono stage, but it is priced around the thousand dollar range. This is where I would go if I could use a LOMC. Spend a bit more now and eliminate the upgrade bug. Also, as much as we would like, cartridges won't last forever, so it may not be a crime to take a chance on something unknown that piques your interest. Seems like this advice goes along with your World Wide Web shopping dilema.
Thanks harv,

" Spend a bit more now and eliminate the upgrade bug." I think is good advice.

I am a little hesitant to go with the Soundsmith option. So far the Zyx has 'piqued' my interest the most -- but I think it is also the most unknown for me.
I had a Dynavector 20XL cartridge on my VPI Scout and absolutely loved the sound. Unfortunately, I bought the cartridge used and the suspension had collapsed. I ended up buying a ZU/Denon dl103 cartridge which is no way as good as the Dynavector. If you buy a used Dynavector, make sure the suspension is in good shape.
Thanks,

I will only buy used from someone I trust. Or who is referred by someone I trust. Been burnt in the past too.

I am currently running a Denon 103 Midas. I love the flavour and I will likely keep this cart forever (bedroom system), but the short falls are now way too obvious for me.