TW-Acustic Raven 10.5 or DaVinci Grandezza??


Seems like a crazy question!
I am getting a Raven one but will have a choice of the Raven 10.5 or DaVinci Grandezza for just $2000 more! Which should I go for? Well I am not sure if Raven one is a good match to this super arm but the 10.5 have got great reviews. Please give soem advice.
luna
Dgad, "we the people" haven't really noticed your absence. Those able to read without having to go through the matrix of their ego will realize that in the very beginning of any thread - especially with your beloved TW - I only took position against pre-laurels.
I couldn't really see any justified "best" before a product was even introduced and delivered.
While this now has apparently becoming a common rule and we see each week another "best of all times" going and going again.
Same with TW and FS - I personally have no problem with them at all.
Now read this carefully - I know you will.
Nor do I have any problem with their products.
Both do deliver well manufactured components which do reflect the positive in german engineering, quality approach and design.
They aren't bad - they are good and they deserve the market success they have.
Message received ?
They are not my cup of tea, but I respect them.
There is way much worse out there.
Surprised ?
No one should.
At least not those who pay attention and read careful.
There are a few people who are unable to read anything which isn't to their particular liking without the glasses of their own matrix.
Consequently they will run into problems with people taking a different point of view and position.

That's happen everywhere in life.

You are right - most have figured me out by now.
A few apparently haven't.
If I wouldn't get the opposition of people like you and others you agree with and who agree with you, I know something would be wrong with my point of view.
Reliefed to learn I am still on firm course.

Agree - the iPad 2 is great.
But I don't read your posts on my way to the bathroom.
Dear Dgad: +++++ " Wonder why you aren't much on the German forums " +++++

there are very good reasons for that. The Dertonarm audio history is a deep and dirty black one. I received several emails from his german audio " friends " where they gave me ( I never asked for. ) point by point an important part of his audio history.
I can't post those german emails for respect to the Dertonarm person/human been figure but suffice is to say that he was expel/ejected by the back-door from all those forums as a fact Agon is his last chance and his last refuge till Agon eject him too.

His audio history is really bad more that you or any one could imagine: full of harmful facts/actions to the good and honest people out there.

What he already showed in Agon forums is only the point/tip of the iceberg ( a big one I have to say. ).

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Dear Luna, as to your original question.
You might make up your mind first which are your favorite cartridge(s) you may use in the tonearm of your choice.
The TW 10.5 might indeed give you a wide range of suitable cartridges to choose from.
A point which shouldn't be forgotten.

"Always be ready to speak your mind and a base man will avoid you".
William Blake, The Marriage of heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell, Plate 8.

One of my heroes from the age of enlightenment.
And one of my favorite proverbs.
Following a rule like this can't just earn you friends only along the road.
Mike,
who brought you on the trail of Dgad? There is no group, believe me. Of course these are individuals coming together, exchanging ideas and also having very different ideas on many audio subjects.

It is like in the US too where some audio friends exchange experiences.
Some of these guys are very keen on the technical side, some more on specific subjects like carts, design etc.

It sometimes seems to me that we all are a bit sensitive towards critical comments and some of us on Audiogon take it personal very quickly.
But what is wrong when someone cannot agree to a statement that at turntable with a damaged bearing still sounds like one of the Top Performers. This is perfect bullshit and maybe one day we will end up in this circus with a design of a floating cartridge needle making us believing it is the benchmark design of all times...

best @ fun only
Dear Raul,

you are still on your crusade against Dertonearm. It looks like you are deeply hurt by his argumentation. You might know that it is no good style saying bad things about someone without being specific. This is a coward like behavior. Did not think before that you need going this way.

best @ fun only