Looks like I got the upgrade path backwards (again). I am learning a lot from this site. If I go for the table first, then I will have to wait and save up some first. The cartridge is quite old and isn't in the best of shape, so I think I will go ahead and change that. Then wait, and upgrade the table/arm together. I was hoping to avoid getting a dedicated phono stage, and use the one included with the amp. The Musical Fidelity M3 phono stage is supposed to be quite decent, cirtainly isn't the weak link in my current system. I will look into the Neuance shelf. Thanks everbody.