Loud to me is realistic concert level sound volume. This is not the level I listen to all of the time, but when you really want to enjoy a particular piece of music, this is the test.
For some music I listen to (prog rock, fusion, folk-rock, . .) this level will leave your ears ringing after extended listening (ie just as they will after a concert. And most certainly, you can't conduct a coversation at this level (much less hear a fart 5 ft away ;-) ).
I've had the same experiance as you with others when I asked them to turn up the volume. Normally I don't receive this from a high-end dealer though.
For some music I listen to (prog rock, fusion, folk-rock, . .) this level will leave your ears ringing after extended listening (ie just as they will after a concert. And most certainly, you can't conduct a coversation at this level (much less hear a fart 5 ft away ;-) ).
I've had the same experiance as you with others when I asked them to turn up the volume. Normally I don't receive this from a high-end dealer though.