worse entertainer or performer of all time??

Phil Collins is an AMAZING drummer and live performer with Genesis. I too don’t support much of his solo work but lets be real, this guy has GREAT talent. Listen to the early Genesis albums right after Gabriel left.

As far as his drumming goes, he’s right up there with great rock drummers like Peart. If you don’t understand that, you’re not a drummer or no very little about drumming.

If you want to list him with Yoko, first turn off Hee Haw and go listen to A Trick of the Tail

PS: Remember I’m know fan of his solo work but I’m smart enough to see the whole picture

Destiny's Child
Menudo
Sheryl Crow
Phil Collins
Spice Girls
In Sync
David Cassidy
Jewel
Madonna
Britney
Bobby Sherman
Any Rapper

Ad nauseum

Most of the "Country Pop" crowd, nobody writes there own songs they simply perform them....and its mostly about looks over talent.
Did you guys know J-Lo's song "Jenny from the Block" had over 20 producers for that crap song!
I never understood how Jimmy Buffet managed to create this HUGE empire when he had 2 songs of mediocre success but he has a huge fan base.
KISS has and will always puzzle me, the are more marketing then music.

"Marketing" you just said the magic word. And to have 20 producer for "Jenny from the Block" they should be embarresd just to be associated with that twaddle.

11-19-07: Schipo writes:

How about Peter Allen and Liza Minelli? She is in my opinion not even a shadow of her mothers talent.

Separately, or together?

The late Peter Allen wrote some wonderful songs, from "Tenterfield Saddler" (good Oz imagery), "I Still Call Australia Home", "Don't Cry Out Loud" (how can you not love that song?), "I Honestly Love You", "I Go To Rio" and co-wrote "Arthur's Theme". He was a monster on stage, a great performer, with boundless energy and enormous presence. When Australia won the America's Cup, he sang in front of 100,000 people in Perth. They made a show of his life - "The Boy from Oz" - and it was a Broadway success.

Liza has less appeal to me personally, but "Cabaret" was a huge hit movie and Minelli won an Oscar for that show. I just love her performance in that movie and like the soundtrack a lot. "Liza with a Z" was a pretty important TV special, a landmark for performance; and then she had the good fortune to latch onto the Kander-Ebb song "Theme from New York, New York" and made it her signature song (of course, Frank Sinatra usurped it).

Liza has had her ups and downs (as did her mum) and while she lived in her mother's shadow, I think she can hold her head up. She's given quite a lot to the entertainment world.

There are a lot of poseurs being mentioned in this thread - but I claim that Peter Allen and Liza Minelli were fine entertainers and performers.

Regards,