Favorite Classical Conductor Followup


We had a discussion of our favorite classical conductors a couple weeks ago. Among the conductors I sang the praises of was Ben Zander. Well I thought I would pass on that in Ben Zander's opinion the greatest "living" conductor is Carlos Kleiber.
sugarbrie
Zander's intent is to educate and enlighten, not to be the better than anyone else. Basically he feels the Beethoven we are use to has be romanticized by a century and a half of "tradition". He uses a Toscanini recording as an example of "tradition" and not following the score. Toscanini claimed he was being true to the score, and people took him at his word because of his reputation. Ben would love this discussion.....The Beethoven 5 & 7 CD of Ben's has the same extra CD with the lecture as the Mahler 9th. I agree his recording of the Beethoven 9th was just so so. I did not like the chorus. Zander is mentioned as a source of tempi ideas in the liner notes of some of Roger Norrington's original instrument recordings of Beethoven
All your points are well taken. I just believe that the marketing hype outstrips the product.
I have had personal contact with Ben in the past on more than one occassion, and he can be hyperbolic in public, so in regards to hype I guess I agree. He is a real dynamo and his enthusiansm is too much for some. No one is neutral if you ask them what they think of him.
For more info on Carlos Kleiber try the following link http://www.thrsw.com/kleiber.html. Most conductors have a strong personal Reality Distortion Field. It's a professional necessity to commnad the orchestra. One one of the advantages of a recording is the listener can avoid it. BTW I've been to over a 1000 professional symphonic and opera performances over the last 35 years and had several personal contacts with Solti during his Chicago years. It is frequently a sobering experience to relisten to a recording of a performance you attended.
There is also a lot of information on Kleiber and many others at classicalmusic.com ---- Pls1 - Interesting comment. I've heard a few of the Baltimore Symphony/Temirkanov concerts I've attended played on NPR and enjoyed them just as much. I also bought my parents that Final Concert CD of Berstein's from Tanglewood for my parents when it came out specifically because they were there. My parents are not critical listeners like us, however.