Lamm ML 2.1 SET vs ASR Emitter II, DartZel

Owl, regarding your Meitner gear, do you have the DAC6 or DCC2? If the latter did you by pass the DCC's premap function and directly connect DAC to the ASR?

It's funny, that in Europe (Germany in particular) nobody cares for ASR.

In Europe we know the ASR's for long time the bigger emitter costs here around 8000 euros. The BIG question is what happened and suddenly we had all this rave. Even in Germany no one said that this is the best killer amp there is. Of course ASR makes excellent products but Dartzeel and Lamm killers I think not.
Have in mind that ASR need days of current to full their batteries and the 800.000~ mF capacitors the had. After a week of "charging" you can hear them at their best.

For years German magazines put them under Mark Levinson 383, Gryphon big integrated, Symphonic lines integrated (hmm), Accuphase 530 and others....(random ranking).

I respect HP's view, but something does not fit, unless all those years we had gold (in Europe) and finally we discover it through the US import.

With all these I don't want to underestimate ASR Emitter's powers and capabilities...I like it very very much....but maybe we overreact ??
IMHO.

i had two darTZeel amps and the new dart pre in my room for a week. if either the Lamm ML2.1 (with any pre) or the ASR Emitter II are better then i take my hat off to them.....and rejoice that that kind of performance is out there.

the dart combo (including dirt cheap proprietary cables and a world class phono stage) was mind-boggingly good.....dramatically beyond my previous reference.

if you are interested in my specific comments click on my system page and the last few posts get into it.

if anyone has a chance to hear the dart amps and pre in a familiar system they should do it.

YMMV.

Wow SirSpeedy! That was the best rant I've seen in a while. Now..tell us how you really feel! And fyi, 'i did get it'.