rewiring preamp will it work


Hello,

I currently have a AES AE-3 DJH preamp. I absolutely love it, but I recently decided to get more into headphone audio, and now need two RCA outputs on my preamp. I was wondering if it would be possible for me to rewire it two have two sets of RCA outs instead of one (one of the input RCAs could be rewired as an output since I only use one input)? I was just going to disconnect the wires on the output and instead connect it in parallel with the original output. I just wanted to check with you guys if this would actually work, or would it cause any problems with the preamp.

Thanks so much,

I appreciate it,
Ron
linaeum66
I suggest you ask Cary. I could find no circuit data for the AES AE-3 DJH but I would be concerned about excessive loading, especially for a headphone.

Kal
Ron:

There's an easier way. There are splitters that have one male RCA to two female RCA. You can either buy the type that is a little solid adaptor:

http://www.amazon.com/Gold-Male-Right-Angle-Female/dp/B0002KRCU4

or get the type that has a little bit of cable. Just google "male RCA to two female RCA splitter" to see your options. It will be cheap and won't affect the originality of your preamp.
Right. However, that does not obviate my concerns about overloading the output stage.
Good comments above. As Kal indicated, loading is the concern. And using an external splitter or y-adapter, such as Viridian suggested, will result in loading effects that are identical to those that would result from the internal modification you proposed.

To assure that no sonic degradation occurs, the parallel combination of the input impedances of the headphone amp and the main power amp should ideally be 10 or more times as great as the output impedance of the preamp, at the frequency within the audible frequency range for which the preamp's output impedance is highest. If that criterion is not satisfied there may or may not be adverse sonic consequences.

The preamp has a specified output impedance of 560 ohms, which is most likely at mid-range frequencies. I wouldn't be surprised if it increases to 2K or 3K or so at 20 Hz, due to the output coupling capacitor it probably uses. So ideally you would want the parallel combination of the two load impedances to be 20K or 30K or more, or some rolloff of the bottom octave, and possibly other frequency response irregularities, may occur.

The combined input impedance of the two loads is equal to the product (multiplication) of their individual input impedances divided by their sum. For instance, if the headphone amp has an input impedance of 50K and the power amp has an input impedance of 100K, their combined input impedance would be (50 x 100)/(50 + 100) = 33.3K.

You would also want to avoid cable lengths between the preamp and the headphone amp and power amp that are particularly long, and/or use cables that have low capacitance per unit length, to avoid possible upper treble rolloff as a consequence of the interaction of cable capacitance with the preamp's output impedance. The TOTAL of the capacitances of the cables to BOTH the headphone amp and the main power amp will affect the signals that are seen by BOTH of those components. In other words, the capacitance of the cable to the headphone amp, as well as the capacitance of the cable to the power amp, will affect the signal seen by the power amp. And vice versa. If either or both of the cable lengths are particularly long, post back with the lengths, and the cable makes and models if known, and the relevant calculations can be performed.

Regards,
-- Al
I would simply use a buffer on one, or both, of the outputs if impedance is an issue. There's always more than one way to skin a cat.

Kal, I believe that would obviate your concens about overloading, or causing an impedance mismatch, with the output stage of the preamp.