Anyone running Totem Forests w/Dreamcatcher subs?


Thinking about a sub (a pair, ideally) to round out the lower octave from the Forests. Only need a bit more low end and the Dreamcatcher is sized right to fit my small listening area. Ideally, I won't know they are there. Hoping to hear from anyone with experience - especially regarding how these subs blend in. Comments and guidance welcome. Thanks very much.
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I am running a Plinius SA 100 MKIII with my Totem Forest.
My room is 10 X 12 and at times I do get bassed out
(recording dependent) This is a great match although it
lacks the great sound staging of the plinius 9100
it appears to push the speakers like butter.
I am trully surprised that you are not getting the
strong bass out of the forest. I agree with Dgaylin
there maybe something up the line your missing.
Always better to go without a sub if you can
unless you are a big movie dude and like the thunder stuff.
But for music I find if you can get all of your bass from
the one pair of floor standings you get the best crossover
in regards to timeing. If you are seeking more bass
after trying a plinius amp on the forest then I would
A/ be surprised and B/ would recommend a rell sub.
Good luck
JJM -
Thanks for the reply...I have heard GREAT stuff about Plinius (esp. 9100/9200?) with Forests. I'm driving mine now with a JAS H-1 hybrid tube amp (EL34 power tubes; transistor pre-amp) Mainly I get great bass from the Forests...much more than you'd expect looking at the size of the drivers. 95% or more of the time I'm very happy. Maybe I'm chasing something I shouldn't? Was seeking to address comments from visitors that the Forests "aren't full range".
Forgot I'd posted this question. An update (especially for others running Totem Forests and wondering about low freq output). Some months back I replaced the JAS H-1 hybrid w/Consonance Cyber 800SEs and Cyber Ref 50 pre-amp. No longer thinking about sub-woofers. It wasn't the speakers. It was the amp, or, probably more correctly, not enough watts (and/or "damping"???) Interesting to also find that on some recordings with bass that I initially thought "over drove" the Forests (certain passages where bass was not well controlled)...these now sound just fine(e.g. Latin Shuffle on MMW "Combustication"; "(Kiss the Frog?)" on P.Gabriel's "US". It has been an education.
Just the other night my wife and I watched some Pacific episodes on blu-ray running through my 2 channel, still Forests out of a PASS X-250/Modwright swlp. Felt no need whatever for subs or surround. Comments coming from various rooms throughout the house and out on the patio confirmed... ;-)
I've owned the Forests and think they are great but they don't go much below 30hz. So if you want full range you need a different speaker or a sub or two.
For me only maybe 15% of my listening requires bass lower than 30 hz but these are some of my favorites and I find the rolling off annoying.
It sounds like you are missing something. Try to find it if you can.