Best electronics for Thiel CS3.6 ?


What, in your opinion , are the best preamp/amp combinations for driving the 3.6s for under $5000 the pair new or used. I'm upgrading. There's a lot of stuff out there I have not heard (recent Audio Research stuff for example). I'm hoping to create a short list based on your input! Thanks in advance. I'm currently looking at Audible Illusions 3A and Bryston 4B-SST. I listen to LPs regularly so line stages will nmot do w/o a phono reccomendation too.
stne418
Outstanding amplifier and preamp from BVaudio P1 and PA300, the excellent combination and the best value for the money unless you want to pay a "name" for $5,000. This is the ultimate configuration I have ever heard, compared to Krell, Gamut, Pass, you name it. Bryston 4BST is excellent amplifier way above the other amps there , I was using it for 3 1/2 years , but I have to say that BVaudio is soudwise above that.
A question a little off the topic but .... I have a 12 year old pair of thiel scs's - smaller bookshelf style speaker, but have never heard another pair of speakers by thiel. Are all thiel's prone to brightness and hard to drive? Any information out there about my speakers? Thanks
Davidspeed, The Theil 1.6 is a real departure from typical Thiel brightness - even with Krell. Unfortunately, maybe too little, too late from the way local dealers are dropping the Thiel line.
Davidspeed, Thiels are not rolled off at the top like some other speakers, as such, with bright associated equipment they will sound bright. As for "hard to drive" that depends. Thiels usually don't vary much with regard to impedance load, so in tht regard they are not hard to drive. Most newer Thiels drop below 4 Ohms for a good part of the time, and will require an amp that provides ample current. Older Thiels like the CS-2's (6 Ohm nominal/ 5 Ohm minimum) and 3.5's (4 Ohm nominal/ 4 Ohm minimum) were more forgiving in that regard.
> Thiel says that the classic combos with thiel are Conrad > Johnson, Audio Research and McIntosh.

I'm an owner of Thiels 3.6. Unfortunately with my amp MF A300 (150W) I cannot get decent bass from them. I had much better bass with older version 3.5. Somebody said that new Thiels would work with Conrad Johnson, Audio Research and McIntosh. Will Thiel work with Cary 805C (only 50W), work I mean decent bass, etc. Do someone have any experience with such combo?