Class D is affordable and sounds as good or better the SS/Valve why buy anything else ?


I have spent a fair amount of my hard earned money on big ticket brand new SS and VT/Valve amplifiers over the years without hesitation, with state of the art 2019 class D amplifiers becoming cheaper and sounding better, i wouldn't join in again.

For older technology amplifiers SS VT/Valve to compete with State of the art class D, Their prices are going up and up.

One example is Pilium Audio from Greece or Bulgaria their Divine Line the prices are all over £100,000 for their pre amps and power amps, I know the UK importer he said they sound OK,

Another example FM Acoustics again up to and over £100,000 for pre and power amps. i have owned FM Acoustics pre and power again their OK,

I am not saying they do not sound good, i am saying why spend this much when state of the art class D probably sounds as good now and can only improve with the GaN capacitors and is nearly up to 100 times cheaper.

Is there still a market for multi thousand £$s SS or VT/Valve amplifiers ?

When class D finally overtakes SS VT/Valves what will people do with their multi thousand £$ amplifiers, keep them knowing there is something better ? Or will we see the market flood with exotic used amplifiers ?

Digital technology is rapidly growing pace and becoming cheaper, with GaN capacitors being introduced the sound is going to get better and better and will slowly or quickly become even more affordable.

If you had 50,000 to spend on an Amplifier, would you buy a high ticket SS amplifier and hope for the best ?

Would you stay safe and go with high ticket valve amp, class D can never match good valves right ?

Or would you sit tight and see how the GaN capacitors can further improve the performance of state of the art class D ?

Please feel free to join in, everybody is welcome, i think its a very delicate/touchy discussion for some people with big bucks invested in older type amplifiers.
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I fail to see how a thread topic like this advances the hobby. Audio is a subjective pursuit and consensus is fleeting at best. Yes, measurements are meaningful and quite useful but it's the ears that ultimately separate the wheat from the chaff. Personally, I use classes A, A/B, and D in my various systems. I also use tubes. System synergy is where it's at.
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Class D has now matured.
Its obvious that this statement is false. '2018 amps are so last week; only 2019 amps can be considered.' is the message I'm seeing here. I can point out the exact post if needed.

We have a patent pending on how to eliminate the need for dead time in class D amplifiers. Now if a little guy like us, previously unknown for even a solid state product, can make an important contribution like that (dead time is one of the major sources of distortion in a class D amp) then its pretty clear that class D is not a mature technology.


Innovation S-curves start with lots of time and money poured into the tech with little to show for it; as it gets sorted out the tech improves dramatically with far less time and money invested. When the tech is mature large amounts of time and money are needed to incrementally advance the technology. So its very obvious that class D is not matured.


Class D isn't there yet, but its obvious that if the designers can get their collective heads around what is important to the human ear and what is not, then we will see something that really is an improvement and by that I mean something that may well be better than tubes.
Icepower put millions of $ and 13 years into their new Iceedge class D ASIC’s. With a team of the best of the best engineers in the business. So unless you have experience with this technology, you are not in a position to judge whether or not today’s class D is mature. It takes a lot of arrogance to assume that a company as large as B&O, with that many top engineers, over a 13 year span doesn’t know what they’re doing.

Iceedge technology is not a 1-2 year leap for class D. It’s a 13 year leap. the last time we seen a leap this large was way back in 2011 with Ncore. And most here don’t even have experience with the best of that yet.