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I have a mutt of a power supply arrangement, and am wondering about its effectiveness. Several of the items are new and have yet to burn in, so I am unsure of the final impact to the sound of my system.

In the wall is a Porter Port, a cryo-treated hubbell outlet. Plugged in to that is an Audience Adept Response AR2P-T. Plugged in to that is a Rigid (Home Depot) 12 Gauge 25' Extension, into which is plugged a Monster HTS1000 Surge Suppressor. From there to the components is a mix of Virtual Dynamics, Pangea, and generic PCs.

The HTS1000 serves as both a surge protector and localized multi-outlet source, as the rack is about 20' from the outlet. It has a fixed power cord, the same size in thickness as the Rigid 12 Ga extension. I bought the Adept Response in lieu of a more expensive conditioner/distribution center.

It seems to me that the constraining factor in this is the fixed HTS1000 power cord. If I were to use a long but higher grade PC from the Adept Response, the power would still have to go through that the HTS1000 PC.

This all feels ok to me for now, as I have three recently installed elements which have to settle in. At that point, I will do some comparative listening to another outlet to hear the differences between what I have now, and what I had before.

One option which occurs to me for the future would be to acquire a surge protector with an IEC connection for a heavier duty PC from the Adept Response.

Any comments would be welcome.

Chuck
cmjones
elizabeth
6,726 posts
 
Put the 25 foot extension cord first from the wall, Then the Adept response plugged into the end of the extension cord. Plug your amp straight into the Adept. And the other outlet of the Adept plug the Monster in. (yes the adept will be just laying on it's side. no problem.
Plug all your stuff into the outlets of the Monster,with the preamp in the amp (hi current) outlet of the monster.
Best you can do.
The Adept has a built in surge suppressor, so your amp is safe.
If you are willing to sacrifice resellingthe Monster, cut the cord off short as you can and stick a decent Hubble A/C plug on it. that will remove a lot of cord you do not want.
Better to have the Adept after the extension cord.
Hope this helps.
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jedinite24
1,502 posts
 
Hi Chuck

Here is my $.02. I think the weak link could also be the HD Power Cord and the Monster HTS1000. I remember from another thread a fellow A'gon member had good results using Volex 17604 power cord mated with a Audioquest IEC 3US Power Cord Adaptor. That would take the place of that HD Rigid Power Cord. I wasn't able to find a Volex 17604 power cord in 25ft length though but I only did a cursory search. You may find something better.

To replace that Monster HTS 1000 PC I would opt for a APC S10 UPS Power Conditioner. It has pure Sine Wave output with battery backup, which is a TRUE power conditioner instead of filtering in most simple ones. It provides 700W continuous power and 1500W transient power so you should be set.

Now I think in another thread you asked about having uniform Power cords all around. I think one of the Virtual Dynamics people had a channel on Youtube and he advocated putting your best power cord on your front end electronics (CD Players, Record Player if applicable). I saw put whichever PC you deem the best on your front end electronics and then spread out the rest. If the stock power cords bother you just round out the rest with Pangea, Signal Cable, MAC etc etc.

Anyway I hope this helps, good luck with your hunt and enjoy your new gear.
tvad
9,467 posts
 
You don't say if you rent or own, but if you own I would suggest installing a 20A dedicated line to your service panel and locating a new duplex closer to your electronics.

If you don't want to install a 20A dedicated circuit, then at least have a new duplex installed closer to your electronics. The cost will be surprisingly low compared to what we typically spend on power products.

Doing this will eliminate the long 25' extension cord and allow you to plug your components into a power conditioner/surge suppressor closer to the outlet.
dcrugby
96 posts
 
all great responses, i think.

tvad is probably on to the most cost effective improvement, imo, but it is a pain in the rear to have work done. i ended up moving my main system after i put in lines and to be honest, i don't notice much difference.

short of that, i would definitely put the audience at the end of the extension cord. my view of monster is generally not great, but i've never had any experience with that monster unit. i googled it and people seem to like it ok, so maybe it's better than other monster products, but i'm still suspicious.

so if it was my system, i would probably just put the audience at the end of the extension cord (i would probably try to get a 6 or 8 gauge or so, but if you're not drawing too much power, you might be ok) and replace the monster with a ps audio of some kind (upc 200, quintet, etc) and be done with it.

you can go nuts stressing out over the last 2%.
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cmjones OP
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Thanks for the info so far.

When I installed the new outlet, I reacquainted myself with the in-wall wiring in the house. According to internet sources, standard house wiring is 14 gauge. That is now tightly connected to the hubbell outlet, and the 12 gauge extension is tightly plugged into that. Why is that not an effective carrier of current to the location of my components?

I did place the Adept Response on the far end of the cord, per Elizabeth's recommendation.
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