Don't get me started.....I feel like a rant, but will try and control myself. The thing is, we have these highly resolving systems that we have put our time and money into, and the software is crap. My DVD audio discs sound good enough to let me know the boat has been missed. Its like having a bunch of NBA players show up for your weekly pick-up game, and the only ball you have to play with is a beach ball. Bottom line, I want my Thorens back from the guy who bought it at our garage sale 10 years ago!