How do you store and catalog your vinyl?

I have a problem shelving my CD box sets such as Mercury, RCA Living Stereo and Deccas with 60 CDs per box.  Also, I have many Warner and other 15 to 40 CD box sets.  The latter box sets generally fit better in my CD rack/Can-Am metal cases as they are packed into flip type boxes which are narrow and can be more easily manipulated than the long or pull up/open boxes of Mercury, RCA and Decca.  Yikes, too many CDs in long boxes.  Same with my Elvis box sets, really long and difficult to shelve.

Lost track but that might be the first example of cataloging on Excel which is what I initially had in mind to do.

I catalog my music, vinyl, cds, sacd, DVD’s on an Excel spreadsheet on my laptop and then download it to my phone. That way I have it with me when I’m buying new vinyl. Prior to doing that I was repurchasing albums I already owned. I list them alphabetically by artist, album name, media. I store my albums alphabetically as well using the Boltz LP shelves. They are very well built, easy to add additional shelves and have sturdy wheels. I think each shelf holds 180 albums. 

Good points, all of which I agree with of course.

No I’m not saying that at all. But reflection doesn’t equate to diffusion. That’s is actually why I said they act as resonators, though. Everything in the room reflects. Also, even if the CDs were stored horizontally they would still reflect. But the sound would be worse.

You can control the experiment to eliminate obvious causes like diffusion and reflection. Like covering the CDs with a thick blanket. Besides, I just gave the big secret away. Don’t tell anyone. 🤫 I said all media behaves this way, I.e., store vertically.  It doesn’t have anything to do with room acoustics, well, except for the resonator part which you can eliminate with paper sleeves.

So, you're saying plastic jewel cases don't reflect sound waves that hit them?! The jewel case's internal volume may also resonate, but it's not either/or.

But the collection of CDs in jewel cases is acting as a resonator, not a diffuser. Even if CDs are in paper cases the sound in the room will be better if vertically stored. Same with all media, even videos and books. See where I’m going with this? 😬

Oh Geoff, I thought you meant that a CD itself sounds better if stored vertically! Maybe your room benefits from horizontal diffusion (from vertically-orientated diffusors). Mine does, for planar speakers. Plastic CD jewel cases are nasty, cardboard much nicer.

Where the collection of CDs is placed in the room affects the sound, too. Moving the CD collection from one location to another location several feet away can sometimes make all the difference. And paper CD cases sound better than standard plastic jewel cases, which act as resonators. For the entire bunch of CDs that’s a big honking resonator beaming up at you. But it’s much more difficult to explain why the sound is much better when all CDs are stored vertically vice horizontally. But I can certainly understand if you never really thought about it or don’t think it matters.

I've never seen an LP collection stored horizontally. Since CD's are (mostly) in jewel cases, I doubt it matters. But it IS easier to get a CD case out if it doesn't have 10 or 20 more piled on top of it.

Its slow going round here.......

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I’m pretty sure what I said hasn’t really sunk in yet. 

Why on earth would you expect any angry emails after that post?

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Like CDs vinyl should always be stored in the vertical position. It’s hard to explain but when they are stored horizontally the sound is noticeably worse. Please, no angry 😠  emails. 

2 channel.

Yep that darn job and work lark is well over rated....lol.
Gets in the way of serious music time!

My small collection of about 400 LPs is broken down to 4 levels: Audiophile; about 42 that are in some way specially manufactured or pressed
Special: Real favorites that are of normal manufacture.
The bulk or main collection
The upstairs collection (tings my wife likes; but I'll never play)
I sort alphabetically within those levels and physical shelves.

I started entering my collection into Discogs a few months ago. It's cool. I've learned a lot about my collection. I was doing pretty well until I got a damn job. That screwed everything up. 

I also have a spreadsheet of 'all' the different covers I have of my favorite songs. Collecting covers has been my little sub-hobby for decades. It sure got a lot easier with digital music downloads, but the vinyls are the gems.

I've also been trying to vac/wash all my LP's and I'm closer to being caught up with that than the cataloging; because it's more important and I'm not totally senile yet. I have a cheap DIY vac setup that is quite effective. I make my own solutions from a great recipe I found on Audiokarma.

Discogs does seem to have a lot of supporters.
Going to investigate while my collection is manageable!

I use Discogs. I sort my physical collection as per how Discogs would sort by artist. Then I just use Discogs to find the album I want and go retrieve it. I can’t understand collections sorted by genre, decade, etc. The goal for me is to find the album quickly so I can listen to it!

I have two five tier glass front cabinets...
my collection of lp's is around 500 after years of "thinning the herd"!...:-)
I sort alphabetically but also have them broken down by types of music ( rock, jazz, blues etc...)

I figured my collection would take about 4 months, non-stop, end to end.  Probably 10 years at 1.5 to 2 hours a day leisurely which is what I am doing.  I just have to get rid of 4,000 LPs and 2,000 78s in my storage shed and stop buying more.

You are correct...lol
If you assume 1 hour per record, non stop is approx 114 years worth.

I haven't done the math, but I don't believe there are enough hours in an average persons life to listen to a million albums. And that's if you started at birth! But then, some people "collect" with no intention of listening.

I still cannot begin to imagine what a million records looks like in accessible storage!

Mind boggling is about as far as I have got my head round it so far

My acquaintances who have/had 1 million or more LPs do/did not have not categorized at all or very well.  What a mish mosh as they generally didn't listen but only collect records. 

My friend with 250,000 78s used index cards and had easy shelving alphabetically by opera, vocalist, instrumentalist and conductor and LPs, all classical or jazz, similarly.  

uberwaltz - That's me. I have 7,000 CDs (5,500) stored in metal cabinets with custom drawers http://www.can-am.ca/  and 1,000 on shallow bookcase shelving.  The box sets are separated on top of the shelving.  These are cataloged.

The 7,000 78s and 15,000 LPs that are also cataloged are stored in built-in wall shelving units (withstood 6.9 1994 Northridge earthquake with a touch/ 1/16th inch movement at most) anchored to my 8"-12" thick double studded, double drywalled walls and 6" concrete slab with 3/4" rebar reinforcement).  

The other 10,000 LPs are mostly stored in racks bought at Costco.

As to cataloging, I use MS Word with separate categories for each genre, just like the shelved LPs/78s/CDs are placed. 
Cataloging & Shelving Categories:
1 A Orchestral by composer,
1 B Orchestral compilations by conductor,
1 C Soloist Instrumentalists,
1 D Chamber works by group name,
2 Opera Singers recitals,
3 Opera,  
4 Jazz Instrumentalists,
5 Pop/Jazz Vocalists and 1950's R&R,
6 Rock & Roll 1960's to 1980's., 
7 A Musicals by title,
7 B Film by title,
7 C Film compilations by composer,
8 A Yiddish vocalists,
8 B Hebrew vocalists,
8 C Klezmer and other Jewish instrumentalists
8 D Cantorial and
9 Comedy (I have about 800 LPs/CDs of these). 
10 SuperAnalog Japanese/other & Direct Discs There is also a miscellaneous category for storage/cataloging for super analog LPs by label such as Japanese Toshiba/EMI/Sony/etc. and direct to disc.

I put a CD symbol for CDs which are cataloged together with LP, knowing if I have one or both media of the recording.  78s are cataloged similarly but separate from the CD/LPs.  

I have slowed down my cataloging (and buying LPs, basically only CDs and CD sets now) as time does not permit it; however, I haven't cut down on my listening time.

A lot of great suggestions. 

On organization - here are 10 different methods to organize. I bet there is at least one way you've never thought of, and might like. I'm actually a fan of release year.

http://www.vinylmeplease.com/magazine/organizing-your-record-collection/

You sound like you are slow to jump into an app to organize. You have nothing in the world to lose trying out Discogs. Put in a couple of albums and see if you like it. There is a massive benefit to that system - the notes people have submitted are incredible. Honestly, given the love for details, I'm surprised more people didn't say Discogs as no other way to do this. 

In those Discogs listings are more details about each release than you can ever imagine. My personal favorite - runout / matrix listings. You can pretty much definitively determine which release you own. Honestly, dollar value is fun, but a lot less useful. 

And, if you are ever out buying records, you will never buy a duplicate.

I organize first by a few categories ..... symphonies, chamber music, other orchestra, and then by composer within each group.  Then jazz, singer-songwriters, early rock, test/demo records, and misc other.  Within these I arrange alphabetically by performer.  I've got over 1200 lps, and 1100 cds, and the system works for me.

I do this because I usually choose what to listen to by category first, e.g. I fell like listening to Judy Collins tonight ... then it is easy to remember to go to singer-songwriters and find "Collins" group of discs.  Then make a choice.

My collection was about the size of yours when I started to organize it last year with Discogs. I got a couple of Kallax shelving units from IKEA and went to town. While organizing, I noticed two things: several records I thought I had I did not (lost in multiple moves, stolen, gotten rid of...) and I had a few records I had no idea how I got them. I quickly started culling and adding, all the while finally LISTENING to my records. Just hit 1500 this week, so beware. 

@downunder, good point about the compartments in the Kallax being too wide, one reason I prefer the EKET. Each compartment in the EKET is 12-3/4" wide, still too much but acceptable. Owners of the Kallax have solved the problem of their excessive depth by installing a block inset into the back of each compartment. I also don’t like the Kallax’s open-back design, but a thin piece of plywood or melamine can be attached to the rear, closing it off.

  Personally I hate Ikea Kallax shelves - yes they are cheap and no doubt this is why they are so popular.  IMO, the shelves are too deep, not high enough,too many records are in each compartment making it quite heavy and you have to put your own back onto the shelves.

  I have been lucky to have my own design shelves made by my Uncle - for me they are perfect - the 3/4 high dividers release the weight strain of too may records and also allow you to easily flick through records.
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my vinyl is sorted strictly A-Z except for Classical, Soundtracks and Various artists have their own small area.
  Discogs is used to catalogue my 95% of my collection.

The Ikea KALLAX is the best deal around. I like the EKET even more, but it’s cost-to-capacity ratio isn’t as good. It’s worth it to me.

I've separated my albums and CDs into two broad categories, Jazz/Blues and then everything else (Soul, R&B, and soft Rock). I sort them by the first letter of the artist or group name.   I have about 1,200 albums - some of which I don't listen to much or not at all anymore.

I store the ones I listen to the most (about 400) on wooden album racks in my basement listening room.  The rest I store in plastic album holders that I bought back in the 70's and 80's, when I was growing my collection.  For easy access, I place those on home depot storage shelves in my basement utility room.  

I keep two of the plastic holders in my listening room to hold music that I rotate in and out of "bulk" storage.
  

Agreed on Ikea, I hauled 5 units up from Orlando in my old El Camino, poor thing was dragging its behind with the weight....lol.
Of course couple months after that they opened an Ikea in my town, go figure!

Ikea Kallax is a Godsend. I have many of them to house my 4,000+ vinyl, organized alphabetically, with separate sections for rock/pop, jazz, audiophile and classical. I have never seen the point in cataloguing them, except that it might prevent acquiring more than one copy by mistake.....

My previous reply was maybe a bit fallacious.  Truthfully, I divide my albums into "classical", "jazz", "rock" and "folk" music.  I also have a "new album" section, and a "current interest" section, which are somewhat intermingled.  I have a small stack that is in current rotation.  I have about 400 albums, and never have any problem finding what I am looking for.

bdp24: I file Dylan and Cooder under folk. 

I have about 5,000 LPs.

They are stored on shelving that consists of 42 cubes, 15 x 15. I built them myself.

They are divided into into three more or less equal sized categories: classical, Afro Cuban, and everything else.

The classical is divided into early (pre-baroque), classical, modern (Alban Berg, Schoenberg etc and after), then arranged alphabetically by composer, then by date composed.

Afro Cuban is arranged alphabetically by artist, then by date of release.

Everything else is divided into jazz, blues, gospel, folk, world, reggae, Afro-pop, country and 50s-80s rock n’ roll, rock, then arranged alphabetically by artist, then by date of release.

Some LPs can fall into one or more categories, I make a call and hope I remember. Eg aretha is both rock and gospel.

The 200 78s are arranged alphabetically.

As for inventory, I am in the process of photographing each LP cover, front and back, on my iPhone. I’ll download them into a document that I will notate regarding condition etc.

i tend to listen to the same 700 or so regularly. About 3,000 get listened to less regularly. About 500 are there because a guest will ask to hear it. About 700 need to go.

I create a relational database that ties in to online meta-data sources, then I painstakingly scan my album art and create tags for music category, performers, composers, production information, release dates, etc.  When I want to listen to an album, I grab one off the shelf.

That does sound a decent idea as yes when I buy new albums I am sorting alpha and when a cube is full then have to start shifting more albums over which can then have a serious knock on effect!

Had a purchase of just 3 albums cause 1 hours worth of moving and rethinking other albums!

I have ~2500 LPs & for simplicity & versatility, file similarly to many distribution warehouses:

Using Ikea shelving, I have 4 rows x 6 columns, ie 24 cubes filling part of the music room wall. These are labelled A-D on the rows & 1-6 on the columns.

I keep a spreadsheet with all artists listed alphabetically & just mark which cube they are in ie A3, C1, D5 etc. Albums by that artist always go in the same cube & it's really fast to find anything. Otherwise new LPs just go into the next available cube, randomly by genre or artist name.

This saves reorganising things in a more conventional A-Z setup when new LPs are purchased and an existing cube is already full so everything to the right of that needs to be moved.

Discogs is great.  Been using the app for a couple years now.  Just snap a shot of the UPS code or input the catalogue number....add record to your library.  A new app update was just released.  Everything I own is catalogued in Discogs.  It also makes for a great conversation piece when someone says, "Hey, I understand you buy records."  "Why yes....yes I do.  Would you like to see my collection?"  Pull out the app and go to town.  Make sure your phone is charged.  They'll get lost in your collection.....seriously.  

All of my records reside in Boltz LP racks.  Very study....solid steel.  All records slipped in MoFi sleeves and 4mil thick outer sleeves.  Records are sorted by band/artist name. 

Eek!

Help!
I am being pursued by a wild GK like creature.

Oh wait.

It IS GK!

Nothing more to worry about then

☺☺

Cross thread stalker alert! Bad, Uber, bad! Cool shower time? 

Defrag the human brain!
If only! Think what it might do for GK!
But then again what fun would life be without all those absolutely useless pieces of trivia you accumalate over the years!

@uberwaltz

Assuming your collection continues to grow, one of the aforementioned on-line databases may be the way to go. I can definitely use more memory. I’ve often thought that if someone could figure out how to defrag the human brain they would indeed become wealthy. But I digress.

@tubegb

Lol

Glad its not just me then!

I suppose I should catalog them, add to a spreadsheet and have a copy on my phone. That way when perusing my LRS I can check if I already have it.

But I am too lazy so far and rely on memory which gets a little rusty with the years it seems!

Further to the above, I do keep artists together.

Records are stored library/bookcase method in modular Per Madsen record racks. They are arranged alpha within basic genre categories: pop/rock, blues, jazz, classical, etc. Record dividers by Koeppel Design (guilty pleasure) are utilized. Total collection is down to a little over 1,000 records. Although well-organized, I’m still more than capable of having a “moment” and purchasing something I already own…

@bdp24 Not quite. It is the laziest way of grouping the records! Seriously, Because they are in record store style layout, I just pick what I want. I couldn't do bookcase. It would drive me nuts. Sometimes albums go AWOL. I have the entire basement with the primary rig, pool table area, workshop area, and rec area with 2nd rig.