Is pure class A ss the equal to tubes?


If someone listens at low levels which would be the best? The reason I'm asking is that I'm undecided on a tube or solid state amp. I'll be using either one with a VTL preamp. Thanks for any input.
mfb33
My amp is class A to around 50 watts and is SS amp, low level listening in my system is between 50-60db in my room. Every detail is in tact in every way as I listen to Leo Kottke and Michael Hedges this afternoon. That said, the amp is very warm even at this no more than 2 watt output. As far as tube or SS..Timo has the best advice, you should listen in your system at your Spl.

Dave
I have both: a pair of Class A monoblocks and a pair of Class A 2A3 based SET monoblocks. My impression of which is "best" depends on what I'm listening to and what kind of presentation I'm looking for in enjoying music - so all theories aside...

A good example is in how the piano is presented. With the tubes, the so-called distortion gives the piano a warm, pleasing sound that makes it easy on my ears. Very fluid, warm and relaxing. The SS monos (ML 20.6's) takes the piano apart. It gives you everything from the attack on the keys and string hammers, the pedal, the sounding board - everything. It presents a more realistic "you-are-there" sound where you can tell the difference between a Yamaha and a Steinway and the venue it's playing in. It also gives you a the presence of the pianist himself. So if you like to recreate a live performance, the SS mono's do a better job but take away some of the sweetness that the tubes give. Analytical? Yes. Unlistenable, definetly not. Just different.

Other types of music such as orchestra, rock, jazz, vocals, are presented the same way. The orchestra, for example, is better presented with the SS mono's because imaging, depth, instrument timbre is recreated in a way which makes the performance more realistic. The ss has power in spades to lift all the frequencies of the orchestra (macro and microdynamics) so that they are at the same relative loudness levels as the performance. The tube amps will strain under the crescendos and may not catch all the frequencies equally, but it will present an overall sound that is more pleasing, especially during low, melodic passages.

All in all, it all depends how and what you like. Sure, I'd say get both but that's going overboard. You can't go wrong with a pair of good SET's if you are willing to endure their finicky nature, if you don't need wall-shaking power, and are more interested in a pleasing sound rather than acoustic gymnastics.
Personal preferences aside, I think a lot of it depends on the rest of your system, and speakers in particular. There are many variables e.g., while there are always exceptions, high impedance loads seem to prefer tubes and low impedance loads seem to prefer solid state.
NO!!! Class A SS is definitely not equal to tubes. They are decidedly different in basically every case. Your preference may be for one or the other and will depend on your system (yada yada)...

Usual disclosure aside, I find that, if your speakers are efficient enough, nothing conveys the true power and emotion of a musical experience like a tube amp - more preferably SET and I find an altogether more natural sound that is closer to reality (at least in my system, listening material, yada yada yada...)

-j
The primary difference between most solid state (including Class A) and tubes is the distortion each puts out. Solid state tends to put out mainly 3rd order harmonic distortion while tubes put out mostly 2nd order and some 4th order harmonic distortion. 3rd order distortion does not sound good at all. 2nd and 4th order distortion puts a musical sonic signature on sound that most solid state (class A or otherwise) do not produce.

Thus, it is impossible to equate the sound of most solid state (Class A or not) with tubes. Tubes add distortion (which can be very musical). This may sound like a bad thing... but remember that the distortion that any of your components (or any of them put together) do not even come close to the distortion added by your loundspeakers.

A famous Hollywood personality once said, "The Real World may not look like technicolor, but it should." I personally think that Real World Music may not sound like tubes, but it absolutely should!

KF