Is there a better table than S. Scoutmaster Ref ?


Here is the question:
Is there a turntable out there that is better or just as good as the fully decked out Super Scoutmaster Reference w/Rim drive, that costs less money?
It seems that the weak point of the VPI SSM Ref may be the arm. Perhaps there are tables out there for less money that have better arms that sound and perform better?
jbcello
The rim drive's major advantage is that it gets you away from the nitrile belts VPI has been using and that is a significant improvement. Others have converted their VPIs to string or tape drive and acheive a similar advantage.
Koegz is right, you definitely could do a lot worse but when you get to this price point you owe it to yourself to check out other options. I mentioned the Galibiers. Another very good contender would be the TW Acustic Raven One. Both of these tables allow the flexibility to try one or more world class tonearms.
Having said all that, if you ended up with the SSM Ref you would have a thoroughly enjoyable source. I'm still playing mine every day and miss it when I don't get the chance.
I have no personal experience with this table but I heard many good things about the Transrotor Fat Bob. I talked to someone who has a 3 motor 3 arm fatbob and he seems very happy with it.
The fat Bob can be simple 1 motor with 1 arm to a 3 motor motor with 3 arms turntable
I have the exact VPI you are referring to and I see two ways to "improve" the sound.

I don't like the fact VPI arm has to go thru many connections before reaching phono stage. I will be building a cable myslef with female Lemo on one end and male RCA on the other. simple to construct, doesn't cost much to build, should be a good upgrade in sound.

as to adding a 2nd arm, as long as your shelf is large enough you can "place" a 2nd arm on the back sitting in a heavy pod of some kind. German table Musical Life is built that way, the arm simply sits in a pod next to the table. another option is to build an arm board that's attached to the left rear feet or bearing nut.

if there are enough interest out there, we probably can get machine shop to build some at a discount.
I realy like the idea of a phono cable that can connect directly to the Lemo connection on the TT arm. One would just need something to securely hold the Lemo and RCA plug in place on the table. I wonder how much the extra connection from arm wire to the small box on the back of the VPI TT, to RCA connector, degrades the sound.
Connections always degrade sound, can be in the form of high freq distortion like brightness or edginess or as my friend called "coherence" which alter the phase/timing and make an instrument sounds "broken". I can attest to the first form of distortion, this can easily be heard especially if setup is not perfect.

I am surprise not many people are interested in this simple mod...