McIntosh - is it that great?


I'm just curious if McIntosh gear is all that great. How does their older power amps compare to new products from other high end manufactures? Are there any products I should stay away from. I like the idea of owning vintage McIntosh stuff. Most of their stuff seems pricy. Is it because it's that good or do people just like to collect their products. thanks for you opinions--Matt
mattman
Porziob: Single Ended Triodes in the 21 Century! Who'da thunk it? People vote with their pocketbooks so in looking at how well McIntosh is doing, I'd say they got elected. If they don't get your vote, that's fine. I think they are aware of the transistors low impedance and it's more about impedance matching: lower it for tubes, raise it for transistors. Bottom line is if there was only one way to do things, everything else would be falling by the wayside and I don't see that happening.
Although it was bought by Japanese company, they did not reveal and release their transformer technology. This is why MC-275 is still, to me, the best sounding amp.
I have just finished re-designing my system. It now comprises: Genesis APM-1 speakers, McIntosh C41 pre-amp, MC352 power amp (both replacing my previous MA6800 integrated amp), MCD7010 player (a change from YBA CD 3 Delta), Thorens TD2001 record player + Synergistic Research Resolution Reference cables with active shielding + Fadel Art Hotline Plus. The final tweak will be replacing the current pre-amp with the C2200 model, funds and wife permitting. This will be the ultimate crowning of my quest for a personal musical Holy Grail.
I am not an audiophile. I wouldn't know an aliquot tone if it jumped and bit me you know where. I also don't care whether the sound of a wrapper coming off a boiled sweet emanates from the 7th or the 9th row of the concert hall. However, I like my music, and Mac's gear simply hits the spot for me. It looks great, its reliability is legendary and its musical performance first rate (at least in my humble opinion). Put together, it produces wonderful synergy.
I have been a consumer of audio gear for 30 years now. I have owned McIntosh, Krell, Conrad Johnson, Marantz, Perraux, Revox, and top end Sony, Yamaha, Teac 3340, Nak Dragon. Tubes & SS epuipment. I liked/loved/hated all at one point.
McIntosh cost are higher for many reasons. 1 overlooked fact is Americans handcraft each one in NEW YORK where the cost of living is higher. The comany has been on the cutting edge in amp research since it started. No other company even comes close to the number of Pat. McIntosh owns in amps!
McIntosh DVD players are always playing catch up and may not be the best value.
Looks and performance. Outstanding. Sold the Krell Amp KAV 300 because lack of involvement no meters. I wanted more than a box with led light, beautiful heat sicks. Don't get me wrong This is a wonderful amp. As far as the sound goes. B&W 801 s3 with Sigma IC's I could not hear any difference Just being honest. I don't have 100% McIntosh eqipment in the 3 rooms. But all have McIntosh amps.
If you are careful and buy a used amp lets say MC 602 New $8500.00 Used $5000 average. I would willing to bet a buck in 10 years you will still have a outstanding amp and be able to sell it for more. Just due to inflation, demand, and the fact that these are the best amps in the world. The reason I have owned so many different tpyes of equipment is I wanted to save a buck. But always compaired what I had to McIntosh. Once I purchased my First McIntosh I quit compairing and have setteled for the best. What a piece of mind. And if and when I do upgrade again I will just smile.
I have been into Audio since 1975.I got intereste in SouthEast Asia.I have ownedSansui,Pioneer,Technics,Pioneer seperats-spec1 spec2.Bose,High end Sony,Panasonic,SAE,Polk sda-drs Speakers,Krell Amp and Pre,Klipsch K-horns,BAT also.
I bought my first Mcintosh Amp,a mint MC2500 built in 1985 backin March of 05.I paid $2800.00 for the amp. Retail new was $3200.00 when it was last madein 1990.The amp is fantastic and I bet I can get at least $2500.00 if I was to sell it,if not more.None of the other brands I named can or do hold their value like that.I bought a new MC275 IV in Dec 05 and it is the best match for the K-horns I have found.The k-horns I got used from ebay a couple of months ago for $1960.00.I am now using a BAT-Vk3 pre,a BAT-PK5 phono pre with a new VPI Scout and a Mac MR-74 tuner that has been gone through by Terry Dewick and Tom Mannley.The tunner is from the 1970's and I bet down the road I can get what I paid for it $650.00 which is more than it cost new.All the Mac stuff I own is great and most liklyI will never sell any of it.I can also get just about any parts I need for any of Macs stuff no matter how old.Their customer service is second to none.What other company would build you a shipping container for a 21 year old amp to send to someone else to work on? Macintosh will and talk to you as long as you want about any thing Macintosh even if you don't have the piece you are asking about.Want a price quote on a new piece of Mac gear?You will either get an email or a personal call,which ever one you pick, the next day.Name another company that will do that stuff.The closest that I have found is Victor and his partner at BAT,one of them even answers the phone even though they are very busy they will answer all of your questions even if the model is no longer made.I am looking at new Mac cd players and will always use their stuff for as long as I am into audio.
Alot of the people,no not all of them,that bash Mac have never owned or even listened to it.I don't see how it cost any more than any other high end stuff.Yes there are better and higher costing stuff but none that holds it's value or is built as well.Any body who says they don't like the sound I would like to hear what it is that they did not like.But everyone is intitled to their own oppinion,I just wish it was based on actualy based on owning one or at least done several demos.