My Dumb Question of the Day


I feel strongly that I should ask a dumb question every day. Audiogon's turn.

When I am playing an LP I clearly hear the music when the amp is off. I know that this is how the phonograph has worked from the beginning (the old wind up Victrola at my sister's house), but is this really a good thing. Would better more efficient coupling improve the signal to the cartridge, would better damping of the tonearm improve the signal, basically, is this accoustic phenomena less noticable on a really high end turntable.

I'm using a Clearaudio Champion with Aurum Beta S and RB300 arm.
jpharris
Hi Jpharris,

I'm a "newbie" to analog/turntables, but I think you are asking an intelligent question...at least based on the answer to your question that I found here:

http://www.turntablebasics.com/advice.html - Go down to the: "Choosing a cartridge: Stylus" section (very near the bottom of the page) to find your answer.

Wes
Hi Jpharris,

I'm a "newbie" to analog/turntables, but I think you are asking an intelligent question...at least based on the answer to your question that I found here:

http://www.turntablebasics.com/advice.html - Go down to the: "Choosing a cartridge: Stylus" section (very near the bottom of the page) to find your answer.

Wes
Lots of idle chatter & smart alec remarks but no real answer until Wes came to the rescue. Thank you, Wes!

Indeed, Jpharris, what you are hearing is shock waves as outlined in the turntablebasics.com website. I was going to reply to this effect but Wes beat me to it. I'm a bit surprised that a cart. w/ a quality as high as Aurum Beta S is producing shock waves! I have heard the same cart. on a Nott. Interspace but it was quite as can be. I wonder what the reason might be in your setup??
I once had an AT96E cart. on an old Dual & it produced loud shock waves that I could hear at my listening seat & in the whole room, in fact. My G1042 is much better - stuck my ear as close to the cart. w/o touching it or the tonearm or the LP - not a squeak.
Sorry about this, I really am a newbie and I am probably giving the dumb answer of the day but here goes.
My understanding from speaking to the designer of thes basis vector tonearm(which I am dying to get) is that this phenomena is real, is found on many (all?) tonearms and is a problem. The problem is that the arm wand is actually coupled to the needle and is vibrating (resonating) with the stylus movements. SOme of this vibrational enrgy is transferred back to the stylus which is obviously not ideal. Also some of the energy from the groove is wasted. Now I cannot comment on what the sonic signature of this effect is , or how much it degrades the signal, but I do know that at at least a few tonearm manufactures make a sincere attempt to minimize this effect in their designs. My understanding is that the basis vector has mininmal noise when played with the amp off, and that the designer is ver yproud of this fact. I haven't heard the vector myself, but I have never read or heard a negative comment about its sound, so It probably helps the sound to minimze this effect. I am little surprised that there are so many smart alec remarks. After all people spend a lot of time and effort trying to minimize stray vibrations in analog setups