Ortofon 2M Red Not Happy Need advice


I just got myself a 2M red. was not able to audition, many of the local shops don't have lower models mounted or identical double turntables for comparison. I went with my gut and dropped a minimal amount of cash on it, figured $100 what is the worse that can happen. Well, I am thoroughly disappointed.

I picked it up since I thought my cart was worn and I needed something to tie me over until I get something serious. My old cart is a Grace F9 Ruby and it beats the pants off of the 2M. I have not let the 2M burn in, but there is such a huge difference between the level of detail between the two carts that I really don't think I can stomach the 2M burned in or not.

The 2M sounds muddy, bright, and is lacking detail big time. Jazz at the pawnshop, take five sounded nice, especially the bottom end but everything else was wrong. Jimi Hendrix came on next, bold as love and little wing were used to audition. Wow, Voice is horrid and the guitar solos made me want to leave the room.

The one thing I can say, surface noise was minimized with the 2M, I think this is due to its inability to pick up detail. I thought my f9 was worn, but it sounds A1 in comparison.

What now, upgrade to the blue? I don't get a refund, otherwise I would take it. Dealer doesn't carry audio technica or denon for the 440 and 160 cannot be exchange candidates. I am seeking a warm and detailed sound. What do you guys think? Should I be more patient and wait for burn in, or is that an uphill battle? Hope to hear from you, thanks.

PS: dealer carries: Dynavector, Ortofon, Lyra, Grado and a couple of others.
dfelkai
All I know is the 2m Red is not in the same league as the Grace F9 Ruby. They are both light years apart. It eill take you a whole lot more $ to better the F9 ruby.
Slowhead, I'm a bit new to vinyl, so forgive my ignorance in advance :) Do you feel the DL160 has enough output to run with a Bellari 129 as a phono stage? I have heard so much good press on the 160, that I would love to give it a shot. Thanks!
According to other threads I've read here about the Bellari, its gain is too low (29 dB) for the DL-160's output (1.6-2.2 mV). If you can swing the extra bucks, I highly recommend the Audio Technica AT150MLX instead: It has a 4+ mV output which is a better fit, It has the same basic tonal balance as the DL-160 (I own both), it pulls more music out of the groove at a lower tracking weight (it's better in every way), and once you buy it, the cost of ownership is the same as the DL-160 as it has a replaceable stylus available from LPGear for $179.95.
Thanks John, I have looked into the Audio Tech and it seems like a lot of cart for the money! I will be giving it a shot and let you guys know what I think. Thanks again!
Defelkai

If this thread is still alive, one thing I noticed is that no one asked what phono pre amp you are using? Just curious as I recently upgraded to a much smoother preamp and it was night and day, even with "cheap" carts like the 2M Red.