^^^ ... tlong ...
Actually, I was trying to be funny, but there really was a poster (a naysayer) who said he was going to apply TC to his sphincter. No joke. I think it was "slaw." *lol*
Frank |
uberwaltz ...
I don't have a streamer, strictly CD's and vinyl here. BUT I am using E Cards on my TV's satellite box and recorder to great benefit. Similar improvements from the two E Mats in the circuit breaker box. Better sound, better color saturation, and a clearer picture. Works really well on my 73" Mitsubishi rear projection TV. Maybe others can chime in on music servers.
Frank |
^^^ uberwaltz ...
They seem to work everywhere tried by most who have tried them. Wish I could help out, but Vinyl and CD's only here. Oh wait ... I can try them under/over my PC to see if the SQ of Spotify is improved. I'll get back to you ...
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uberwaltz... I have a bedroom system that consists of my computer (PC), and a pair of Audioengine A2+ powered speakers. Just using the stock speaker cables that came with the speakers. I put E-Cards on top of the speakers, and on top of the PC. The results are very satisfying. 1. The computer screen has a much better picture. Great for cruising YouTube videos. 2. The music from my Spotify account is much better. The speakers completely disappear. The music has a lot more body. Better 3-D imaging. Lots of depth. The real payoff is how relaxed the music has become and how visceral human voice is. Love those sultry female ballads! :-) Listening to a live recording of Mel Torme at the moment. Delightful! I'll leave everything in place overnight and report back in the morning. Frank |
uberwaltz ...
I know the feeling. The E Cards I'm using for the bedroom system were taken out of the family room TV system to try this experiment. Now, I don't want to take them out of the bedroom system What to do ... What to do?? |
lemonhaze ...
1. Try the Mat either way ... on top, or beneath the Oppo. 2. Try pasting the Oppo's connections ... the IC's and the PC. 3. I don't know the answer to the "steel box" question. 4. Yes, I did listen to every Filippa Giordano recording offered on Spotify. Thanks for the recommendation. She has a beautiful voice, no doubt. Unfortunately, the recordings are very processed, using too much artificial digital reverb for my taste. I like natural sounding recordings. A little of that reverb is ok, but too much is too much. I understand why many folks like it, as it makes the sound stage appear larger and more cavernous. Not my cup of tea though. I predict that once you have your system up and running using the TC and the E Mats that you will be hearing a lot more of that processing in some of your recordings as well. :-) Take care ... Frank |
yoby ...
I'm going to be placing some E-Cards on my transformers tonight. I'll report back with the results.
Go Rams!
Frank |
yobyI very carefully placed Omega E-Cards in certain locations inside the components, like on top of transformers and such. This is easy in my system as I leave the lids off of the components. Then I got the bright idea of putting E-Cards inside of the wall outlets. I removed the wall plates and found that there was just enough room to slide the cards in on both sides of both outlets. They just barely fit on the outside of the outlet’s internal box. Things are still "charging up" but my initial reaction is very positive. The noise floor continues to drop, revealing more infinitesimal details that were not evident before. Bass control is much better too. I’ve spent the entire morning listening to both female and male vocal recordings that I know very well. Voice inflections are improved, and the personality of the singers shine through even more than before. Backup singers and accompanying musicians are more clearly delenated too ... and I thought I had that in spades before the E-Card experiment. Who knew? *lol* By the way, both of these outlets were treated with Total Contact a couple of months ago. So the E-Cards are a further improvement over the TC. My friend Robert is coming over tonight for a listening session. I didn’t tell him about the placement of the E-Cards. He has a good ear and knows my system very well. We’ll see if he detects the improvements I’m hearing. Stay tuned ... Frank |
Well, the E-Card experiment is working out nicely. Like all of the PPT products, it takes time to reach full potential.
As reported above, I put E-Cards inside the equipment on top of the transformers and then also along the sides of the aluminum boxes that the receptacle fits into. Basically, the effect was to "charge up" the receptacles themselves.
The results during the listening session last night with my friend Robert was an even more solid 3-D effect and much better bass. Lower strings on orchestral recordings were really fleshed out. Gotta love bowed basses and cellos when they are aggressively and beautifully played through a good audio system.
The realism continues to advance. It was even better this morning. How much better can this get? I still can’t believe the sound I’m getting from a pair of Legacy Signature III’s. Amazing, really.
Thank you Tim and Krissy.
Frank |
I had about 1/4th of a tube of Total Contact left, so yesterday, I had a friend (fellow audiophile) come over to help me paste my circuit breaker box with "Total Contact." We pasted the mains, the grounds and the breaker that controls the audio system. That's as far as we got due to running out of TC. There was an immediate improvement in the overall sound. Again, the lowering of the noise floor was readily apparent. Where things were sounding great before in terms of transparency and 3-D layering, its even more so now. The separation of instruments and delineation of voices of back-up singers are more visceral than ever. Everything that was there before has been improved upon. I've never heard a system with this kind of silence. No grunge. No distortion. Just music. My friend Robert is coming over in about an hour with another person who is into audio. He's never heard my system before, so I'm really looking forward to the listening session. I'm kinda blown away by the improvement afforded by this latest pasting. I haven't told Robert about this latest TC application, so we'll see if he notices the improvement. - Important! My friend is experienced with electrical work, and I don't recommend that anyone without experience tackle the mains. They can be lethal if not handled properly. Hire an electrician to do the job if you're not experienced.
Happy listening, guyz. :-) Frank
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David ...
Thanks for the tips on further pasting the circuit breakers. That's our intention when I get more TC.
We pasted the circuit breaker box this past Friday afternoon. I got up really early this morning and fired up the system. The improvement overnight is astounding. We all know how treating with Total Contact improves over time. There's that four/eight-week thingie that happens. I just can't fathom how good it's going to be then.
Frank |
elizabeth ...
You don't know Steve's wife. She rocks out on both of the super nice systems Steve has put together. He's one of the lucky few. *lol*
Now then, take my wife... PLEASE, take my wife.
Frank |
So, it’s been a week or so since we pasted connections in the circuit breaker box with Total Contact. My friend Dave came over for a listening session last night. Dave is the audiophile friend who helped me paste the circuit breaker box. There was a definite jump in SQ over previous sessions. TC is funny that way ... it improves as the paste begins to cure. During the session, I dug deep into the record vault and pulled out three gems that haven’t been on the turntable or CD player for a couple of years. These recordings have been transformed into some kind of magical thing that defies reality. If you have them and haven’t played them since applying TC, E-Cards, and E-Mats, dig them out for a great listening experience. Here they are if you want to buy them: The first album is available on both vinyl and CD. Lee Oscar was the harmonica player for the rock group "War." This album is kind of a cross between jazz, rock and classical fusion. It plays huge. A music lover’s and an audiophile’s delight. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lee-Oskar-Lp-1976-Harmonica-9-Songs-United-Artists-UA-LA594-G-G-VG/22301966...The second album is the soundtrack from the movie "Mission." It’s also available on both LP and CD. https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Mission-Original-Soundtrack-from-the-Motion-Picture/273618867171?epid=1...The third album is by harpist Andreas Vollenweider. It's more jazz/rock/classical fusion. Amazing! https://www.ebay.com/itm/ANDREAS-VOLLENWEIDER-WHITE-WINDS-SEEKERS-JOURNEY-CD-CBS/382754290762?hash=i...I had no idea what kind of information was buried in these recordings. Prior to the TC treatments, E-Cards and E-Mats, they were really good. But now? Who knew? For all three albums, you will want to really crank up the volume, sit back and be totally immersed in sound. Highly recommended. Frank |
uberwaltz ... I’ve got a million of ’em. *lol*
My wife said that if I brought one more piece of stereo equipment home or one more LP, she’d leave me.
I kind of miss her sometimes ... :-)
And by the way ... I have a sub-panel in the master bedroom closet. I already had one E-Mat inside the panel door. I put another two mats in there for tonight's listening session. Wow! Another drop in noise ... and this one wasn't subtle at all. Amazing products coming out of PPT.
Frank |
Today is Tim's birthday? Who knew?
Happy Birthday, Tim. :-) |
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^^^ Thanks, tuffy. More good stuff to come. Stay tuned. :-)
Frank |
Its been just about a week and a half since we pasted the circuit breaker, mains and all. Things continue to improve.
Had two audiophile friends over yesterday for a listening session. It ended up being an eight-hour session. My friend "Mas" brought some terrific vinyl reissues that really made the day. Dead quiet and wonderful sounding. It is amazing how good new vinyl, properly remastered, is today.
I've been experimenting with more E-Cards this past week, especially around the turntable motor and platter. Interesting results so far. More lowering of the noise that wasn't there. *lol* Plus, I place one more E-Mat in the sub-panel for good effect too.
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Steve (fleschler) ...
Try to find the time to come up for a listen. As a result of pasting the circuit breakers with TC, something special is going on. I think you'll like it and gain a little insight into what you have to look forward to in the new house. :-)
Frank |
Almost another week has gone by since the circuit breaker box was pasted with TC. The SQ continues to improve. Its not quite at the magic four-week point yet, so we are looking forward to that. Also, I added another E-Mat to the secondary circuit box in the master bedroom, for a total of three mats there. The noise in the system continues to drop with each mat added to the system. What's astounding is, just when I think there is no more noise to be removed, the noise is lowered even further. I put four E-cards around the motor of the turntable too. The jury is still out on that one. The noise is lower but it seems to have gained a little muddiness in the bass department as a result. That's nothing new with the PPT products. There are times when they are first applied, at least in my system, where the sound is degraded for one to a few days ... but then it comes back better than ever. This is especially true with the bass. Hey, you TC pasters, E-carders and E-matters ... do you have this album? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Don-McLean-American-Pie-1971-LP-Used/323699459108?hash=item4b5dfdc424:g:cvM...I dug it out last night for a friend during our listening session. I haven't played it in several years. It's really a great 70's classic rock record. If you've heard it, you know how good it is ... but NOW? Fantastic. Highly recommended. Frank |
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jafreeman .... - "I coated the outside of the stranded braid thickly, thinking it would all spread out as the set screw flattened the wire outward in the barrel."
I think the thick coating may have something to do with the "problem." Only a thin coating is required. TC takes time to cure (dry) for it to be at its best. You've noticed an improvement over the past week, right? I think that's because your thick coating is starting to cure. It should continue to improve over time. That's my take anyway. :-) I'm approaching four weeks out from pasting the circuit breaker switches and the mains. What I'm hearing now is impossible. Truly impossible. I need more things to paste. :-) Frank |
resolution1
I have had a similar experience with the Omega E-Cards. I have a card on each of the power cords where they connect to the equipment, and cards extending over the IC's where they connect to the equipment as well. Nice additional lowering of the noise floor was gained by doing so. A further gain was had by putting Omega E-Cards along the sides of my turntable motor. Frank |
resolution1 ...
The E-Cards are effective, but one E-Card doesn't equal the power of one E-Mat. I've found the E-Cards to be really convenient for fitting into places where an E-Mat wouldn't have a chance of fitting.
As an example, after pasting my power receptacles (wall sockets) with Total Contact, I was able to fit an E-Card on both sides of the aluminum "box" that contains the socket. They just barely fit.
Another example was fitting a couple of E-Cards to my outboard turntable motor.
The E-Cards can be laid on top of the power cords right where they enter the component. Same thing with IC's. I have them laying sideways across each pair IC's in the system also.
Honestly, with all of the Mats, Cards and TC, the noise floor of the system now stands at "amazing." :-)
Hope this helps ...
Frank |
Good to hear, Ozzy. I was wondering ... did you try putting two E-Mats in the circuit breaker box?
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Ozzy ...
My circuit breaker box is just a little larger than the size of an Omega E-Mat. So, I put two in there and just closed the door. Subsequently, I pasted the breaker switches and the mains with Total Contact. Putting the two mats in the box was really effective. I also have a sub-panel in the master bedroom closet. Putting two mats in there was a significant improvement as well.
The combination of the mats and the TC really complement each other. I suggest you contact Tim and get some TC and really go to town on your system. At this point, the noise floor of my system is beyond disbelief. No joke.
If you're worried about the TC degrading over time, don't be. I've had many of my connections pasted for over two years now, with no degradation at all. In fact, I think it just continues to improve.
Again ... congrats on your results. :-)
Frank |
Ozzy ...
As I said in a previous post ... the more mats, the better the sound gets. Try two or three in your circuit breaker box, as that seems to be the most effective place to start with them. Then add mats under your sources as the budget allows. Just keep stacking them up. *lol*
Also, the Omega E-Mats work really well in combination with PPT's Total Contact. Its a synergy kind of thing.
Although I've never tried them, based upon several reports from users, the MC-05's seem to degrade the effect of the Omega E-Mats. Not knocking the product here ... just reporting on what other's have shared with me.
The sound I'm getting from red-book CD's is absolutely fantastic. Its been a solid four weeks since we pasted the circuit breaker switches and the mains with TC. This is a phenomenal breakthrough in sound. I'm going to attempt to get several A'goner's over for a listening session this coming week and they can report here what it's all about. Zowie!
Mas, MriBob, and Steve ... you guys have to come over to hear what's going on here.
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So, you just assumed that the magnet part of the mat is the effective part of an Omega E Mat. Then you went out and bought similar material and expected to get the performance of a real Omega E Mat, is that correct? And now, because of your failed results, you come into the thread to knock the real product? How utterly stupid of you! The MAGNETIC materials used for the E-Mats has NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR PERFORMANCE. NOTHING! The only reason the material is used is that it adds substance to the product. I’ve said that numerous times in this lengthy thread. Had you paid attention, Elizabeth, you could have saved yourself a lot of time, effort, and some money. Originally, the Omega E-Cards were made with the refrigerator magnet material as well. They were smaller and less effective than the larger E-Mat due to being one-tenth the size. Anyone who has received recent editions of the E-Cards will tell you that they now use stainless steel for the backup material instead of the refrigerator magnet material. So, based upon that, Elizabeth, go out and buy sheets of thin stainless steel and put them under your components and see what the results are. I’m LMAO at your naivety. Conversely, stainless steel could be used for the Omega E-Mats too with the same results as before. But ... why add all of the weight unnecessarily? Also, the magnetic side is really convenient for placing them up against something vertical like the inside of a metal circuit breaker box door. It’s nice to have them stick to the sides of metal material without them slipping off. Wolfie sez: - What, exactly, does an Omega Mat do? How does it do it?
1. Exactly?? ... They lower the noise floor dramatically. That’s what all of the PPT products do, and they complement each other while doing it. Use the Total Contact paste as directed, then add Omega E-Mats and/or Omega E-Cards to increase the performance of each. 2. Call Tim at his contact number. I’m sure he would gladly give up all of his insights, formulas, secrets of how his present products work, and also reveal his ideas about future products coming down the line. Call him, Wolfie, I’m sure he’d be more than happy to receive your call. oldtech0 sez: Removes money from your bank account as well as lowering the noise floor to -200 db or lower by proximity. They certainly do remove money from bank accounts, oldtech, I’ll give you that. And ... the bad news is that they are cumulative. The more Omega E-Mats you stack up, the better the results. Don’t know how you measured to get your -200db results, but I can tell you this ... place two Omega E-Mats in your circuit breaker box, then one under each component and look out for a major, very pleasant, surprise. Stack four E-Mats in your circuit breaker box and six or more Omega E-Mats under each component, fire up your system, put on your favorite demo recording and you will have an adult diaper experience. Stay tuned guys ... more genius products are coming soon from the fertile mind of our friend Tim Mrock. :-) Frank |
Wondering what to make for dinner.
How about baking a nice crow pie for dinner, dear? :-) Frank |
^^^ Elizabeth ...
You are encourageable. No matter the numbers of positive results posted by A'gon members here, and a VERY positive review in StereoTimes, you continue mouthing off nonsense.
I have to ask you, what is your intent here?
On the crow ... You WERE in error by assuming that you would get the same results from ordinary refrigerator magnet material as you would have gotten by buying a real Omega E-Mat. A total waste of your time and money.
The kicker was that you came into this thread to knock the real product because your silly experiment failed.
Eat Crow, baby! *lol*
Frank
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oldtech0 ...
I have two words for ya .... and it ain't "Happy Birthday." By the way, you're kinda funny. Not as in a weird kind of funny, but in a HaHa kind of funny. :-) Frank |
^^^ Shhh ... she's busy baking a crow pie at the moment. :-)
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elizabeth ...
Fanboy here. Just a simple question: You were offered a free sample of PPT products to try for yourself and you turned it down. Why? Frank |
elizabeth ... There is nothing "magical" about the PPT products, nor is Tim Mrock an "alien." There are solid principles at work here that are beyond my ability to explain them to you. I spent an entire career in sales and could care less about physics. You really should call Tim for an explanation ... as far as he would be willing to explain or reveal to you. Seriously, for you, or anyone else, to come into this thread and knock the product without ever trying it for yourself is ludicrous. Even more ludicrous is your caution to those purchasing Tim's products. With the exception of "Total Contact," there is a money back guarantee. So, where's the risk? Frank |
- Geezus ... who’s attacking whom here? ^^^
And by the way, just for the record, here's my disclaimer from the post where I talked about my friend pasting the circuit breakers and the mains:
Important! My friend is experienced with electrical work, and I don't recommend that anyone without experience tackle the mains. They can be lethal if not handled properly. Hire an electrician to do the job if you're not experienced. Frank |
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oldtech0 Your diatribes seem familiar to me. Were you posting earlier, say a year ago, under a different handle? Just wondering ... Frank |