Perfect Path Technologies: Omega E mat

thecarpathian
@geoffkait- Would you agree that these products, given their claims, go beyond a "weird audiophile tweak" and can have myriad applications beyond stereo equipment?

>>>>>How could I agree? I don’t know what the heck the thing is. Do you?

I had to deal with that question in my profession. The answer is it depends. I think you missed my point earlier. Competition will learn from your patent and this is key....then CHANGE and thing or two just enough to break away from the patent. You just managed to help others learn from your hard work and take it to the next level with some alterations. Surprising how slight these alterations can be to escape patent issues.

So if what you have is extremely difficult to figure out and tool for, then keeping quiet with no patent may indeed be the wise decision as it is highly unlikely competition will be able to respond in a timely manner.

@grannyring- What would you believe carries more risk, filing a patent for your invention and anyone copying it can be subject to patent infringement laws, or putting your invention on the market unpatented where anyone can copy it and you would be powerless to take any legal action against them?

Hi grannyring. Well, let's ask...!@perfectpathtech- there is debate on whether you have taken your invention's tech elsewhere besides Audiogon. Will you clear up whether you have or have not?

The claims made about patents and their risks are real. Also, why do some of you assume the owner has not taken this tech elsewhere? I am confident he has already and this audio thing just happens to be one avenue the owner is using.  He is an Audiophile so why not apply here also? 

@geoffkait- Would you agree that these products, given their claims, go beyond a "weird audiophile tweak" and can have myriad applications beyond stereo equipment?

If what you say is true, which it’s actually not, then all the big boys would have already been scrambling to climb on board the graphene cables train, or the graphene fuse train, or the graphene contact enhancer train, or even the silver gold contact enhancer train, or the wire directionality train, or the artificial atoms train. Whoever was put in charge of googling new inventions or What’s New? is obviously asleep at the switch. Not only have they not been scrambling they are apparently blissfully ignorant that any such products even exist. Let sleeping dogs lie. 🐶

Sony or any of the big boys in the industry could not possibly care less about weird audiophile tweaks. Been there, done that. Ditto for NASA, military, DARPA, NIST, FAA, AES, and most audiophiles.

@djones51- I agree with you. If what everyone is saying about patents has merit, then what’s the point of patenting anything? Also, your point about this being a game changer if it can do what is stated will not be addressed. I pointed out the exact same thing on the Total Contact thread when there were much more extraordinary claims about that product. Example- That product cuts your electric bill by a whopping 10%! Television clarity is enhanced, lights brighter, ’micro arcing’ eliminated, enhances any and all electronics, etc... I pointed out that every industry in the civilized world should be clamoring for this product. Tens of millions of homes and buildings on the world’s electric power grids, aerospace and defense industries, giant electronics corporations, power companies, you name it. Yet, that product has been out since the beginning of the year, and as far as I can tell, Audiogon is still the sole advertising/marketing venue for both products. Why on Earth would the inventor limit these as simple tweaks on a stereo forum when they have such a profound impact on all things electrical and electric power consumption? Doesn’t make any business sense to me. But, that is something only the inventor can address.

An attorney wouldnt take a contigencey on a patent case. No way. Rambus who had or still has the patent on RAM memory chips did nothing but sue and be sued by companies from around the world for at least 15 yrs..They had very few employees...their greatest expense were legal fees. Their stock went down 40% one morning after a district court ruled in favor of a German chip maker. 
After years of more lawsuits and big bucks the case was over ruled. By that time the wind was lost in their sails/sales and so were many investors..and yes they finally received damage compensation. But to continue to bankroll that ordeal you need to have resourses to Stand up and Fight. Tom

Lawyer joke. What do you call a lawyer who’s up to his neck in concrete? Not enough concrete. 😀

These are all pseudo arguments. It wouldn’t be too much trouble to take almost any device apart or cut it open and submit it to a scanning electron microscope if that’s any help. Problem solved. But not everything in this hobby is so easily figured out. That’s why it’s sometimes a good idea to skip the whole patent process entirely and hope for the best. Besides tweaks these days is a very iffy business, moreso than ever, so chances are excellent the tweak entrepreneur will not ever get his money back he spent on the patent. In case you haven’t noticed most audiophiles who actually give a rat’s behind about tweaks are old timers, many in their 70s and 80s. How big a market can there be? 😬

If someone in say, China figures out how the device works and sells it in China you would never even know there was an infringement. Duh! Why do you think we won’t sell weapons or technology to certain countries. Hel-loo! Now, supposedly having a presence on the internet for a period of one years offers some protection against intellectual property theft but if that is even true it seems like very weak protection. 

dpjones51 - 
Well of course a (patent?) attorney is going to take that view!  :-)

In fact, patents don't provide automatic protection against infringement.  The holder needs adequate resources to defend AND the patent(s) must provide adequate scope to help against infringement to begin with.  Then there's always business as practiced in certain Asian countries to consider.  

Nobody gets patents in this industry.

Cardas would be one exception to this, I suppose?

Actually they reveal how the device works.

Sometimes, even filing an application for patent (whether or not one is ultimately granted) can put your IP out there in the public domain. There are ways to avoid this. Published patents are viewable by the public.

https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s103.html

As GK has said, lack of a patent certainly isn’t reliable commentary about the "quality" of an invention.

I worked in innovation for 32 years.  @geoffkait is spot on with his statements above.  A patent simply gives others deeper knowledge and vital missing links on how you accomplished your innovation. Competition will learn from it and change one portion enough to call it their own and skate by. Best to keep it a secret.  

You have to dig deep into your own pockets to be able to defend your patent. That is another reason not to patent. If you actually had a break thru in technology you can only hope to have a company that has integrity and deep pockets to come in and buy you up or some large portion of your position. I am not sure that even a bullitt proof NDA written on graphene would offer an inventor protection during a one year discovery period while courting outside investment  Tom

Actually not getting a patent doesn’t tell you anything about the effectiveness of the product. Nobody gets patents in this industry. They are too expensive and they don’t protect you from intellectual property theft. Actually they reveal how the device works. Hel-loo! Patents are like merit badges for Boy Scouts. Besides all the world loves a mystery, doesn’t it?

I think Candella is referring to graphene technology.  Otherwise, I can't guess at what has been disclosed that Tesla and NASA are working on.

Once the inventor patents the technology, it becomes public knowledge. The inventor said it is easy to copy. In other words, the patent will lead to immediate theft of the product by others. I don’t recall the inventor stating that it has not been perfected yet for audio use. He’s working on a third audio tweak involving acoustic applications.

Correction on the word base. It should have read bass.

rc

Candella.
When was the main component of this mat disclosed?
I do not remember reading that here?

Update, after almost on the breaker panel and about about a month and a half on my CD player here are my observations on my system.

1. The additional base has become more integrated into the musical whole.

2. Finer musical details across the frequency spectrum have emerged. 

3. Dynamics are incredible.

So so far no complaints from me.

rc

I like your big picture.  I hope you are correct.  My wife's next car is a Tesla S.  Putting an E-Mat to get 5% more mileage would be worth the cost of the mat over 5 years.  It works for my TVs with only 1 mat on the mains panel box.  Unfortunately, the audio experience is that 6 or 12 mats make a bigger improvement so I wouldn't want to buy 6 mats for my future Tesla S unless it got 25% more miles per charge.

To your surprise the companies you mention (Tesla, NASA, etc) are among the hundreds who are working as we speak in the development & research of new products and technologies based in one of the main components of this Mat. 

I think we are just missing the point.

‘Quality’ affect performance...like better octane petrol could improve the performance of a car, better electricity has the potential to increase the performance of an electrical equipment.

Hot water cylinders are very old technology, a new one and a 50 year old are pretty much the same, well not really...old ones used better materials (copper) Their thermostat and element isn’t a precise and perfectly tuned computer, they also slowly deteriorate due to their own working environment (water, heat, etc).

The thermostat sets a maximum limit for the hot water temperature, it does not fully control temperature, by law further regulation has to be done by using a tempering valve and manually testing the water using a thermometer.

As a plumber I don’t remember ever finding even a new cylinder were the temperature set in the internal thermostat and the temperature of the tap water to be a perfect match. (Usually less even by 10 degree Celsius) External variables, like water pipes, humidity, weather, season, etc. Will make this hardly possible.)

I believe better power electricity in fact could increase the temperature of your hot water in the same way it could affect the saturation and brightness of your screen or the loudness and background noise of your stereo. Thanks

Yes sir..I know you never discounted anyones take on their listening experience. Just looking for a new weight and measure for the improved emotional connection with the use of the E Mats. Tom

What’s the unit of measure for the vastly improved emotional connection between this man and the playback of music in his room?  Tom

As a past president stated and was scoffed at..keep your tire pressure at the suggested pressure and you will increase your gas mileage 5% and save $$..Multiply that savings times all the cars and trucks on the planet..Even if it was less it would be huge gain for all of us.

If the E Mat made for some net gain 2% or more that too would be considerable.
I see a test on several types of devices under tight control of temperature and humidity. The same devices held tightly to regulated voltage...and then again on the same line feed but this time an unregulated line voltage. Unregulated is the real world. I suppose we would look for a drop in current draw as well as a drop in operating temperature..maybe more? Tom

I haven't noticed any difference on my frig or freezer, lighting or other electrical appliances.  However, both TVs exhibit much brighter pictures (at least 20%) and warmer/denser colors.  I had to adjust the brightness down to match the former custom setting on my 75" Sony TV.  I'm pending a DWP electric bill.  With all this heat, I want to see even a 5% decline from last year.