I’m curious about this product from Perfect Path Technologies and would like to hear from those that have experience with it. I’ve bought and used the Total Contact enhancer and like what it does for my system so I’m interested in hearing how this Omega E mat performs.
Well, since you danced around the question; I will ask again. Since there seems to be no danger; Are you going to try an E mat taped to your chest???? All reports seem to indicate that increased performance can be expected. Not only advancing HEA but also medical science.
For medical science and improving the rest of your life; should be worth a try. You could use an elastic wrap instead of tape.
Forget the TC; you blew that. You can still use the mats though. You should try 2-3 on both your chest and 2-3 on your back.
Since I was diagnosed with an incurable disease in Sept 2017. It is quite amazing what you are willing to do. The drug that has a 68% chance of prolonging my life is very hard on my immune system. My second infusion; Kicked my butt for six weeks before my system started to recover with the help of more drugs. Now, I do not need to sleep 14-16 hours a day. 7-9 and a nap in the afternoon is not too bad.
When Al raised the question in a previous post about magnets and their effects on pace makers, I took one of the Omega E Mats into my cardiologist and explained the uses for the mats and the fact that I have a lot of drivers in my speakers, which of course means more exposure to magnets.
The cardiologist told me that the warnings in the after surgery instruction booklets are over the top, written by corporate lawyers, just to avoid any possibility of litigation. As an example, the booklet tells you not to put your cell phone in a shirt pocket that is near the pacemaker.
The cardiologist told me that the only way to affect a pacemaker negatively with magnets, would be to put a powerful magnet ... much more powerful than what these mats and speakers could generate, directly on the pacemaker itself. So, in other words, there is no concern of screwing up the pacemaker with handling the Omega E Mats or standing in front of stereo speakers.
I personally thanked Al for his concern in a PM. :-)
Excellent question though ...
Frank
PS: I’m kind of sorry I didn’t take a tube of Total Contact into the surgery room with me and instructed the surgeon to paste the connections that hook the wires up from the veins to the pacemaker. I’ll bet I would have ended up with the most efficient pacemaker on the planet ... and a great sounding heart beat to boot. . *lol*
I just had a conversation with Fleischer and he reminded me of something. We are both experiencing having to lower the volume control on our audio systems. The great dynamics and musicality remain. So, I'm assuming that it means more efficient use of electricity there as well.
I'm going to try the "pint sized varmints" too. One place I'm going to try them in, is the inside cover of my Sound Application power conditioner. I'll try to place some around the twelve sockets too. I'd paste the inside of the cover with TC too, but I'm out of product now.
Sound Application power conditioner with upgraded receptacles:
"I know nothing about these mats so I am not commenting on them. I am assuming that licensed electricians and local inspectors have signed off on placing these mats inside panel boxes? Are these placed behind the dead front?"
No, I have mine placed just inside the circuit breaker box exterior door. Nothing is on the breakers themselves. With that said, there are those here who have pasted their circuit breaker’s connections with "Total Contact" with outstanding effects and used electricians to help out. I think one or two guys have done it themselves, but then they have the skill sets to do it. Personally, I’d get an electrician to do anything beyond the breaker box door. But that’s just me. I don’t like major voltages ... and they don’t like me.
I know David .. and when you think about it, that was 15 seconds of electricity I didn’t have to use. Multiply that by all of the household appliances ... the fans (its hot here), the TV, the refrigerator, the microwave, etc. That would account for the drop in the electric bill. I can only imagine the savings if one were to use air conditioning. Over time, I believe the mats would pay for themselves.
In thinking about it, I wonder what the savings would be if these mats were used in a large office building, or say in a hospital where air conditioning is used constantly? They have huge circuit breaker panels, so it would take a lot of mats ... or maybe just one large one? :-)
I think if I were a much younger guy and not breaking down physically, I’d work out a deal with Tim to rep these mats to businesses ... on a strictly commission basis of course. Now THAT would be a lot of fun for sure.
Ah geeze ... now I have my salesman juices going again. Its time for more coffee and watching the news. *lol*
Frank, worth keeping an eye on...though I believe there are too many variables to account for, before these 'improvements' can be attributed to the mats. A nice upside, whatever the reason(s), especially when one can munch on popcorn fifteen seconds earlier. : )
All kidding aside. Small appliances seem to work more efficiently. As an example, last night I put a bag of popcorn in the microwave. It usually takes exactly two minutes on high to complete. Last night it was done in one minute and forty five seconds. No joke. No joke about the refrigerator or the electric bill either. Has to be the results of the two mats in the circuit breaker box.
Get six mats from Tim and try them for yourselves. If you don't get the results I've described in any of my posts, return them for a refund. No questions asked. I sincerely believe that you will be thankful for the adventure.
Music recommendation: If you like Chet Baker, Bill Evans,
Zoot Sims, Herbie Mann, Pepper Adams, Kenny Burrell, Paul Chambers and Philly Joe Jones,
here's some beautiful ballads that go real well with that morning cup of coffee:
I'm going to assume that you haven't put mats or TC around your neighborhood lights so.... isn't it possible that streets and sanitation cleaned the lights, or the moon cycle illumination affected the sense of increased lighting or etc, etc.
IDK Frank. Do you think that your performance evaluations could be breeding controversy and strong negative reaction?
“I am not "putting down" something I know little about. Is the mat that could be appraised by a mag such as Stereophile? It seems that much of the knowledge and experience is word of mouth and perhaps a lot of audiophiles out in the world are missing out?”
amg56,
It is my understanding that Stereophile and TAS (maybe other mags as well?) have a policy that in order for them to review a product, the manufacturer must have a network of dealers. This means that companies who sell their products direct, not through dealers, can never get a review, no matter how effective and/or popular their products may be.
An example of this would be Herbie’s Audio Lab. They have been making excellent, effective vibration control products (tube dampers, footers etc.) for many years. However, because they sell direct, none of their products have ever been reviewed in Stereophile or TAS.
As you know, when dealers get involved, you have substantial markups. This means higher prices. How many wonderful, reasonably priced, audio products are not as well known as they should be, because of those two magazine’s policies?
I don't believe that I've ever put you down for anything. And I won't. Ever.
To answer your question ...
1. Audio ... you know about that. 2. Video ... you know about that. 3. Appliances --- I've had to turn the temperature up three times in my refrigerator. Because it runs more efficiently, it kept freezing the vegetables in the vegetable drawer. 4. Lights in the house seem brighter. 5. Street lights are brighter. 6. Overall electric bill has gone down by about 10%.
All of the above include the Mats in the circuit breaker box and judicious use of TC in places unimaginable. :-)
While I enjoy reading all the audio adventures 99% of you are having, I am really interested in whether other improvements have been experienced other than audio/video? Many pages back I asked a similar question and was churlishly put down as a troll.
Why would a question about other improvements be out of place? I read that many mats have been placed in the breaker boxes/ fuse boxes what ever the particular country parlance is.
I would be interested if the mats do have an effect on other appliances. Bedside clocks would be an example as these share an electrical feed from the fuse box.
I am not "putting down" something I know little about. Is the mat that could be appraised by a mag such as Stereophile? It seems that much of the knowledge and experience is word of mouth and perhaps a lot of audiophiles out in the world are missing out?
I was wondering if you home roast, or have ever done so.
The person I bought my speakers from years ago was a home roaster and he turned me on to it. I was already into good coffees (Gevalia) and had it home delivered pre-roasted. You'll pay as much or more for a half pound of pre-roasted Gevalia than you would for a full pound of green coffee beans from sweetmarias.
It was good coffee, but the person who sold me the speakers sent me a quarter pound of four different varieties that he roasted. I was sold after one sip. It was that good. I bought a roaster and some green beans from www.sweetmarias the next day and never looked back. That was about ten years ago or so.
@oregonpapa. Agreed about the African coffees, quite fruity and complex. I as well prefer a milder cup. Thank you for the website post, I shall check it out. Happy sipping and listening!
If you go to the site and check out the coffees, you’ll find a graph that shows the characters of each variety. I like the ones with the chocolate overtones. That’s usually the Guatemalan coffees and sometimes the African coffees. However, the Africans are usually noted for their fruity overtones ... a bit of ripe plum, peach or apricot. My brother likes the Africans a lot. This morning, I brewed some top notch coffee from Ethiopia ... yum, very chocolaty in nature.
I like a nice bright cup with the flavors unraveling and exposing themselves as the cup cools a bit. At that point, the really good ones hit you with a bit of sweetness right back where the jaw hinges on each side. I love that ... and the Guatemalan coffees seem to get it really right most of the time. No sweeteners needed. I usually go along with what Tom & Maria suggest on their site. Oh, and their service is top notch.
Most folks brew their coffee way too strong. What I described above is achieved with lighter brews.
If you, or anyone else would like some guidance on which roaster to buy, I’d be more than happy to help.
One thing you can be assured of Jay ... I have never reported anyone to the moderators no matter how insulting, demeaning or hurtful their comments have been. I don’t believe in censorship, believing instead, that the answer to offensive free speech is simply more free speech.
You have reported me twice in an attempt to shut me out. You have called me every name in the book, for reasons I cannot fathom. I won’t do that to you because it’s not my style. I’ll just let your last post stand so that other members can get a gauge on exactly the type of person you are. Or until the Mods discover your latest acid drenched attack against me and remove it.
What’s really troubling you Jay?
You seem to be hung up on what I paid, or didnt pay, for items tested. Is that it? If I didn’t pay for things, are you suggesting that it would somehow influence my test results? Can you see that just by asking the question you are questioning my integrity as a person?
Jay, do you ever read what you write before posting and consider the effect it may have on others, or are you just as vindictive of a person as many of your posts suggest? You’re sad, dude ... very sad.
On the payment, or non-payment issue ... I don’t owe you a damn thing, including an explanation. Why you think you are so entitled is a mystery to me.
Dude. find a nice little safe place, or perhaps a cozy little cry room somewhere and work it out. You’d be a much finer human being if you did.
Now then, I will count the seconds it takes you before you report this post to the Mods. Be sure to don your brown shirt before you do though ... you wouldn’t want to appear out of character. Like your last post ... it just wouldn’t be appropriate.
@oregonpapa Frank, is Guatemalan your favorite? It was mine until I tried a delightful Hawaiin Kona. Similar to the Guatemalan, but a bit smoother. Also, if you sweeten your coffee, try a bit of high grade honey. Delicious!
My three black and two red duplexes are obsolete? How bad are they? I really like the sound improvement from the black duplex. The blue fuse doesn’t make the black fuse obsolete, but somewhat better. I could still live with a black fuse but I really liked the immediate improvement of the blue fuse. The difference between the colored SR fuses and colored SR duplexes do not compare to the great improvement in sound using six E-Mats. The E-Mats are more like the difference between a stock cheap non-audiophile fuse and an SR black or blue fuse.
Yes, the blues are out, and in. Based upon David’s observations, the blue duplex pretty much makes the red an black obsolete. Thank you Ted Denney for your efforts to improve sound quality.
Just relaxing this morning with my first cup of home roasted Guatemalan coffee and being drawn into the melodic trumpet of Chet Baker, accompanied by the baritone sax of Pepper Adams and piano gymnastics of Bill Evans. Astoundingly beautiful . Thank you Tim Mrock and Ted Denney.
Continuing the idea of improving one’s Audio-Visual System: Yesterday I upgraded the wall outlet to the AV system to a Synergistic Research Blue outlet. Another improvement to movie watching satisfaction. Picture quality improved and Audio dynamics especially improved. The combination of using Omega E Mats and Synergistic Research Blue outlets is most satisfying. David Pritchard
Just the one E-Mat over the main breaker panel has improved the picture quality (depth and color) on a Sony 940D and suprisingly, the bass and depth of a pair of ADS 600s two way speakers attached to a Yamaha CR600. My wife and I are amused and happy to have elevated the audio of our TV so much (sounds twice as big) with just a single E-Mat over the main breaker panel. The main audio system is located 50' away and isolated with it's own subpanel and 12" thick double walls.
hifiman5: I also think the circuit breaker box is an excellent location for a first Mat. If possible place it in the circuit breaker after a listening session and then let it start to equilibrate overnight before your first listen. I think you will hear additional changes at about 3 days, and then a blossoming of sound at 12-14 days. I think you should have a firmly stabilized system at 21 days. I found this time table also applied to visual improvement in my video system.Sharper images, more 3D sensation, and more vivid colors. Old black and white movies also benefit from the Mat.
Ronrags:
I have not tried the Mat with my tube amplifiers, but my circuit breaker was completely treated with Total Contact before I added a Mat at this location. The Mat gave additional benefits. The Mat certainly has a positive effect with Pass Lab amplifiers.
"Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if any customers have returned the E-Mat after sufficient trial time?"
None that I know of. Everyone seems to be happy with the mats. Congrats, by the way. You’ve made a good choice for the location of your "first" mat. :-)
ronrags ...
I, and others, found that under the line stage is the best place to double up the mats. That’s after placing one in the circuit breaker box though.
After 603 posts about the Omega E-Mat I decided to pull the trigger and order one. I plan to place it, using the magnetic side, to the inside of my 200 amp service located in the basement just outside of my listening room. I’m hoping to hear improvements in audio down here and visual improvements on my 65" UHD screen.
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if any customers have returned the E-Mat after sufficient trial time? 🤔
I have a question for those with several mats. Has anyone experimented which components or which combination of components sound best with the mats? I have 3 mats and initially decided to place 1 on the power conditioner since all my components are plugged into it. (I didn't place a mat on my circuit breaker box but applied TC to the inside of the door instead). The other 2 mats were placed on the music server and the dac but not the tube integrated amp. I could experiment switching or stacking the mats but that could take several weeks since it takes about 2 weeks for the mats to reach their full potential with each component. Any recommendations?
I received my second e mat yesterday. Now 24 hours later I have heard further improvements. The thing I noticed right away was that I have even more bass and more of a fuller sound in my room. Soundstage continues to expand and yes the noice floor has dropped even more. The inner details previously hidden are more apparent. It is great fun to crank the music and have a system that totally sings and is not missing a beat or under any stress, and this is when I really crank the sound to what used to be its stress limit. Music sounds so live and real and full of energy. I have never had this much fun with my music system and even a lot of my old cds from the 80s are sounding good
Joseph: I do think your approach is very smart. Take some time to let each Mat achieve it's maximum effect at that location. My results so far indicate to start with the circuit breaker box location for the first Mat as you then will have a beneficial effect on multiple pieces of equipment. If possible place the Mat at a trial location and then give it at least overnight before any serious listening. I heard differences at 10 hours, three days, and then a significant change at the 12-14 day mark.
Have fun with the Mats! If they improve your listening sessions keep them and if they do not send them back. With the 30 day trial period there is no need for a snap decision for or against. Return postage is cheap.
I do hope forum readers that stream music will take the opportunity to listen to Zuill Bailey's cello work. A nice CD is his playing cello with David Leisner on acoustic guitar. Recorded in an auditorium and not a studio, the interplay of guitar - cello- and recording venue is very satisfying to me.
“Congratulations on the further improvement of your system with the second Omega E Mat. It is difficult to verbalize the improvement in a system as additional Mats are installed and then become stabilized after being in place for Two weeks. My audio systems are now more emotionally moving and stimulating.Trying to verbalize the why of this effect I will leave to others.”
WOW! You don’t see that too much. Difficulty verbalizing the improvement to the sound and no attempt whatsoever to speculate how these things work. And he has eleven of them! 🙄 For anyone having difficulty expressing himself or identifying characteristics of sound you might consider consulting several sources of audiophile terminology, One such compendium of terms was developed by J. Gordon Holt. His book is found on Amazon here,
As an E mat "superuser", your endorsement of the mat, both personally and professionally, carries considerable weight. I am looking forward to adding more mats over time--thanks for the encouraging reports of continued gains with each additional mat. Is there a point at which you would stop adding to a system? Wondering if there is a limit to the density of sound one room can accommodate.
Congratulations on the further improvement of your system with the second Omega E Mat. It is difficult to verbalize the improvement in a system as additional Mats are installed and then become stabilized after being in place for Two weeks. My audio systems are now more emotionally moving and stimulating.Trying to verbalize the why of this effect I will leave to others.
The cost of multiple Mats is considerable but not more than two or three upper tier Power Cords, one or two DACs, or a premium amplifier such as my Pass Labs INT-60.
I am on the Board of Directors of El Paso Pro Musica whose artistic director is Zuill Bailey (three time Grammy Award winner in classical music). My passion in life is listening to music. My audio expenditures allow me to have a greater connection to the music I listen to and a greater connection to the artists who create the music. I think the Omega E Mats are an audio bargain.
Listening to my second E Mat, placed Thursday between Richard Gray 240V/120V system transformer and Richard Gray 1200C front-end power supply, which supplies Wadia 861 SE/GNSC player that has one mat underneath. If there is a "noise floor", the bottom just dropped out, revealing even more information, formerly hidden behind and between other information. Nuances of percussion, keyboard fills and voice harmonies are popping out all across the deeper and wider soundscape. Worn-out cliches, yes, but how else to describe it?
Give me a break, you don’t have any idea what you’re talking about. I have a different word than naive. You’re the one hurling the insults. Go jump in a lake.
Theres the Katie we all know and love so dearly, ready to hurl insults .
If you had said that in the first place then we might have had some clue what was whirling around in that head of yours instead of wondering what speeling mistake or grammar dysfunction you were trying to trip people up on now!
Earth to uberwaltz, nobody I know ever pays full price. Ever. Especially if someone buys 11 of something. I doubt he did. Especially if he’s a beta tester. Follow? I wouldn’t be surprised if you paid full price, however. No reason for all the attutude, Bubba.
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