Please Help


I'm new to this hobby. I have a Bel-Canto Evo 2i and need a cd player or dac/trans combo. I've done as much research as possible which explains why I'm totally confused.

I've been told by someone respected in the modifications industry that if I go with seperates he would recommend a better transport than DAC. I've been told the complete opposite by others. I've also had many folks tell me that a one-boxed player is the way to go for the money.

I've got about $1,500+ to spend and would prefer to buy a good used product. I listen primarily to aggressive music but Norah Jones and Bob Marley are also regulars.

My speakers are JmLab Chorus S and have not been broken in yet, therefore they are still a little bright. These may end up front speakers for Home Theater and a 2 channel speaker upgrade will probably be in my not to distant future.

Any help would be appreciated, as well as any recommendations regarding cables and power conditioners. I'm in the vibration and shock isolation industry so hopefully I'll be able to handle that end.

Thanks for any help.

Scott
shimanole
Transport/dac vs. one box vs. one box (modified) -Very good question.

One of the biggest problems in digital is the mechanism in all cd players/ transports. The manufactures that supplies the audio companies will discontinue production. So your unit has to go in for repair (plan on it) and there are no parts available (read the previous wadia thread). This happens to all manufactures (including reimyo) with the excection of cec and teac (sorry if I missed a couple).

In regards to modification. There are some great sounding units. However, I would NOT invest big money into it.Why ? You void the warranty and there is very, very poor ROI. Dont get me wrong, spending $100-$300 for a minor mod that is reversible is fine, but the more you spend - the less you will get back..

Transport / dac (my favorite) generally cost a little more, you will need 2 power cords and a digital interconnect. However, if/when your transport goes down. You can still get by on with any player with a digital output.

depending on your taste...if you were going to go the daac/transport route. I would consider the electrocompinet dac and a cec transport or a japanense multiformat player. you might spend a little more. but the electro dac is world class @ $1100-$1200 used and the cec 5100 is pretty nice transport.

like anything....ymmv..

good listening,

mike
Welcome to the insanity!. So many choices and everyone can suggest things but only you can decide what you like. Here are the products that I have used that make listening more enjoyable.

PS Audio P300 power plant
Cables-Revelation Audio Labs
Perpetual Technologies-P1/P3 & Monolithic power supply

Would suggest the Benchmark DAC, PS Audio P300 and a Revelation Audio Labs digital cable to start. For a transport you can use any DVD or CD player to keep costs down-make sure there is a coaxial out.
Best of luck!
Scott.

I asked the similar question about 3 months ago and got so many responses it took some time to work through them all. The funny thing is I'm sure most of them were dead on ... I decided to go big and picked up a Levinson 360S DAC and I'm now saving for a new transport. I can tell you it sure made a huge difference however my system is quite a bit different than yours. One thing I would like to point out and; any other member's feel free to correct me on this. I purchased the 360S partially because it could handle a 24 bit digital input (SACD/DVD-A) but due to RIAA concerns such a thing does not exist. If you plan on going to 24 bit sound ... better stick with a single unit with analog outputs.

As for the 360S; I like the multiple inputs - I run the PC, DVD and my Redbook transport through it and get fantastic results. I think the 36S would have been a better fit as I use it mostly for Redbook CD now and the 24 bit driven analog out "ain't happening".

One concern about going with a separate DAC is jitter.
I read up on jitter because I kept seeing it referenced as a potential problem when you separate the transport and DAC:

Here is an good overview if it's not a term you are familiar with:

(http://www.wadia.com/technology/clocklink/sld002.htm)

I can tell you I'm running a pretty simple transport (Rotel RCD-1070) and my system exhibits NONE of the described effects that I have read about in terms of jitter ... in fact it's very, very detailed and accurate. High frequency was dramatically improved and I hate to sound like an ad but I really can hear things on CD's I had never heard before. I connect the two with a coaxial "Silver Resolution" cable I bought from Signal Cable. All that being said - I spent too much.

Are you looking at Redbook playback, SACD/DVD-A, DVD-V? At your price range I would lean towards a good single unit. Your budget puts you into some nice players. If it's mostly Redbook I like tubed output, if it's a multi format player I hear good things about the Denon 3910 ... you might be abled to pick up a used untit with a level one mod. I emiled a member who went that route and swears it's the best of everything. The good thing about Agon is you can buy, try and if it's not for you - resell and try something else.
Good Luck!

The Horse
I would strongly suggest going the music server route if you already have a pc or a laptop. I've read many great reviews on the Wavelength USB DACs, as well as others.
If you are new to this hobby AND only have $1,500 to spend don't even think about separtes. You can get an awesome used CDP for $1,500 but separates are consumed by those with lots of experience who know EXACTLY what they're looking for and can tweak their system by swapping in/out transports and DACs. Also, good ones are expensive, even used.

Also, stick with name brands to start: Cary, Audio Research, Sony, etc.

Also decide if you want only Redbook, SACD, Mulitiplayer etc.