Recommend CD Player with Volume Control

It's obvious that you, Carl, are missing the point that I'm trying to make. This is why. I own, and enjoy tremendously, a CD-50! You were so blinded by the fact that I raised the notion of individuality and personal preferences, that it never entered your mind to ask what I happen to be using in my system. To everyone else, I apologize for getting off track from the initial thread. In that regard, I too recommend the CD-50 without hesitation. That's just MY preference. It may not suit everyone's taste.

OK, so you just wanted to pick an argument, then. That's petty, and if you think you're telling me anything I don't already know (that everyone doesn't like the same thing...although you stated that wrong), you're wasting your time. I was talking specifics, and you were wondering why, when you had the player all along. Pipe down, already...

Smarting as I am to the rebukes I received for my Take the Audiophile Quiz post, I am wondering if we can't reach some agreement to keep these discussions positive. We all have a strong interest and love for music. We all want to see others enjoy the experiences we've had with music and equipment. Why is it necessary to inject anger into these threads? It is easy to slam somebody in cyberspace because you don't have to ever interact with them in person. But ultimately, I think this undermines the attempt to learn from one another so we can further enjoy this hobby of ours. And isn't it really just that -- a hobby? We're not talking about life and death, political gains and losses, or anything else in which one of us is going to win and another is going to lose. So can't we keep things polite, even when we don't agree with one another?

This forum was and is very polite, Michael, and there will never be agreement in this hobby...please don't otherwise delude yourself on that. We are all here because we love music thru audio, and that's not really "just a hobby", is it? Posting it twice doesn't help, either....................It's clear that Shelton simply wanted to belabor a point obvious to all of us, stated it wrongly, and then hid the fact that he knew the CD50 was a terrific player. As the glib and verbally challenged simpletons always sate on here..."nuff said".

To clarify one thing, when I say "never be agreement", I mean perhaps what Shelton thought he was trying to "teach" me. That we won't always agree on the various intricacies of this "hobby". BUT, (this relates to my point) that does NOT meant that when a product works very well (like the CD50), that there won't be a clear consensus to the positive feelings of the vast MAJORITY of those who have owned or heard the product. Denying that is what I perceive Shelton is actually doing, and that's like denying that the sky is USUALLY blue in the daytime, when there are no clouds. That is my point: that Shelton actually agreed with all the rest of us on the CD50 (except Ryan alone), and yet he denied that most of us could somehow be in agreement on it, because we "would all hear it differently". I submit that there IS a median human audibility curve, and any aduiologist will provide those facts for you, Shelton. There's also a "mean degree of 'adequate' system set-up and synergy of fidelity" that most of us in this "hobby" have arrived at, so there is a reasonable degree of "translation" from ONE system (whose performance has been optimized adequately), TO THE NEXT. I'm not talking between systems where there are problems, I'm talking between ones where there are few if any problems. Any system that provides a satisfying musical rendition, and also displays in obvious fashion the difference bewteen one recording's character, to the next, is my definition of such an audio system. And, MOST OF MY ACQUAINTANCES ON HERE HAVE SUCH SYSTEMS, so that, in a practical sense, DISPROVES Shelton's little theory for me, and I hope for the rest of you...............The rest is for the Supreme Court to decide, and I hear Remquist and a few of the other justices are in a bad mood today, because they haven't been able to listen to their CD50's enough, of late...