Actually, Flex, I think it is sort of amusing that the Sistrum folks are continuing to use this thread to advance their product. Anyone making fresh product inquiries will stumble upon it and have plenty of advance notice of the contrversies involed. It now reminds me of a scene in a car full of teenager's in a barn, in a Fellini film about growing up in America. That car was sure rocking about! Maybe those Systrum stands could have helped drain those vibrations. :-) But, in the final analysis, you are right. Incidentially, I think I have heard the birth pangs of a new Sistrum dealer, but time will tell.