Speaker upgrade help?


Mostly use the stereo for learning songs. (I'm a bass player and saxophonist) Presently use B&W 685 with B&W 650 sub. Decent front end: Oppo, Arcam, Dynaco. Room 8X14X24'
This system hangs a clean, deep image up to a point. But being a lifelong musician I occasionally indulge in loud sessions and it doesn't sound like clipping when the image starts to flatten out and get abusive. My guess is I'm starting to overload the 685's?!? (No I don't keep listening @ these abusive levels.) After about a year and a half the 685's are starting to seem zippy or bright and I have experimented with dangling paper napkins (1 ply) in front of the 685 tweeters. The napkin mod reminds me more of the good old days with Doubled Advents. Ah youth...

Considering B&W 803's(used), NHT Classic 4's, NHT xD 2.2 or Definitive Technology Mythos ST. All available $3K or less. Would love to get rid of sub for room clutter. But the NHT xD promises so much? Any thoughts? I can demo the 803's but odds are I won't be able to demo the others.
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Shadorne: My buddy the sound engineer/electronics wizards suggested some pro monitors just last night. So you're contention is I'm just smoking the coils a bit? That was my guess.
Elevick: Dynaco spec'ed out Under distortion @ 235W each side. I don't believe I'm clipping. My guess is the 685 coils would be goo if I pushed them anywhere near there.
Daverz: The ceiling of the room is speckled plaster and may well be part of the harshness. The rest of the room is extremely well damped: upolstery, rugs, curtains, corner- breaks, old Maggies, etc.
So you're contention is I'm just smoking the coils a bit?

Yes in teh majority of consumer designs:

When the woofers have large excursion they lose linearity and oomph because the coil sees a lower magnetic field.

When they get hot (typicaly around 150 degrees celsius) the resistance rises and they compress as well as making the crossover inappropriate (designed only to work when voice coils are cool). It takes as little as a few seconds to heat a voice coil.

In both cases this results in lots of distortion and the speakers sound dull, flat and loud instead of effortless.

A good pro design should play much much louder but won;t sound loud because of thelack of distortion.

Most consumers think their music is extremely loud when it is not...they are usually only overdriving their system and listening to large amounts of distortion & compression(distortion is perceived as loudness by our ears/brain)

In general (there are of course exceptions): A high quality pro speaker comes with ugly cheap cabinets and expensive drivers. A high quality consumer audiophile speaker comes with beautiful expensive cabinets and ugly cheap drivers.

Nice quality woodwork is expensive and is an obvious source of pride and joy to consumers. Good quality drivers are much less obvious to an untrained listener. Manufacturers simply make what people buy/want.
Have had the 803 Nautilus and matched them with a one of a kind McCormack DNA-2 Deluxe (Rev. Platinum). They eat power endlessly. You need the finest amplification to drive them and the bass will still be on the lighter side.

Replace with the NHT Xd system. You can not really go wrong with the 2.2 and NHT is selling them direct for 3K. Very hard not to take advantage of this great value.

Forget the passive speakers. The future is active for the 21st century.
You get a five year warranty with NHT. It's a steal marked down to 3K from 7K+.