Subwoofer for classical music listener


This is my second post on the subject of subwoofers.
My first post wasn't specific enough.
I listen to classical music 90% of the time.
Are there any classical music listeners out there who have subwoofers?
if there are, could you let me know what you have?
i don't imagine I would need quite as powerful or expensive a sub as those who mainly listen to other types of music, but I may be wrong.

rvpiano

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OP--For what you've described and your limitations, I don't think you could do much better than the sealed SVS for the money.  Getting it integrated...well, be patient.  Seems SVS sometimes gets a bad rap among two-channel folks, with the impression that SVS belongs to movies.  That was probably more the case with the giant ported tubes and the giant ported boxes, but, imo and limited experience, the sealed subs can work very well, especially if you don't need to cross them over above 60 hz or so.

I've had three SVS, and they were bullet-proof.  Bonus points for that, at least.


OP--See Almarg's note above.  I think you are going to be fine with the impedance matching, as long as your pre doesn't spike too much in the low frequency.  You have a very solid trial period with SVS.  Let your ears judge.  Sounds like you know what you are looking/hearing for, and, if you don't find it, you know what to do.

Your biggest hurdle is probably going to be placement/integration, especially if you need a large "sweet" spot.
Haven't thought it through, but if high-pass is needed, how about something like an NHT X2?
@bob_reynolds On the SVS, does it do an AD/DA conversion to do the processing digitally, particularly for the high-pass?  I thought some subs do that.  I have an SB13, and may have misunderstood or overthought it.
@bob_reynolds . Interesting. Thanks. Maybe that's worth a shot on the SB2000.

I thought the SB13 had the highpass go through processing and through AD/DA, so I’ve been too stubborn, fundamentally, to even try it. We spend all this time and money trying to get our DACs right, just the thought of taking that and going back through what would have to be a lesser "quality" AD/DA kills me. Less so on the actual sub processing though...to me, the benefits seem to outweigh any compromises for the sub, itself.

But, I generally agree with you on DSP, but on the digital signal--before any analog conversion. Although I haven’t personally tried DSP in stereo.


OP-You are a patient person.  I'd be digging up any old crap rca I had in some old dusty box just to try it out.  haha.  Glad you like the SVS.
Agree 100% with almarg.  Any old rca cable(s) from the sub's high-pass outputs run to your amps' inputs will work and give you a sense of the flavor.

If you like it, upgrade those IC's as you see fit.  Or get some with a trial/return policy.

Whether your speakers are powered is entirely irrelevant.
Using the high-pass built into the sub will probably be a trade-off, but only one way to determine whether it's worth it.
rv--glad you like it, so far.  quick, easy way to try an option you already had available.  could have just as easily gone the other way (a lot of folks prefer what whart outlined (I do, too, in some configurations)).  perhaps relieving your amp and mains of the "stress" of producing the low bass and/or easing the integration outweighs any nasties the crossover or additional cabling might add.  as bdp and others have noted, there are other, perhaps better, ways to try to accomplish the same thing, but you already had this one in your pocket.

agreed that almarg is smarter than whoever you spoke with at SVS!
RV--Are you running 25' rca cables from your preamp to your sub and then 25' back to the amps?  Do you need them that long?  If not, shorter, the better.  I have a couple short SVS "SoundPath" cables.  They seem to be well made for the money, and, to my ears, do little to nothing to the sound and don't pick up noise, as they should and as almost all decent cables do, imo.

For the more technical folks who may opine on the length and potential impact--here are the SVS specs on the "SoundPath" rcas:

Conductor DCR = 77 mΩ/meter
Shield DCR: 30 mΩ/meter
Nominal Impedance: 110Ω. Cable and RCA connectors are impedance-matched to minimize Voltage Standing Wave Ratio (VSWR) and Return Loss.
Nominal Capacitance: 39 pF/meter @ 1kHz
Rated Bandwidth: DC-5.0 MHz (3M cable) with ≤1.09 VSWR and ≥27dB Return Loss
RV--did you find the highs bright before you added the sub or before you used the sub’s high-pass? or did it occur after (I think you mentioned you were happy with it, before, other than lacking some bass)?