Tidal Sunray vs Gryphon Trident

Murataltuev, I have bass down to about 14 Hz and have a very large room, 18 x 26 x 11.5 feet. I am on the second floor with wooden flooring and do feel the impact on me of the bass on pianos and the decay of timpani and the oscillations of 16 Hz on an organ.

murat---

i can assure you that my sunrays reach the lowest of octaves when pushed, and/or when it is on the material played. mind you, my room is quite large(~525sqft), and i certailny feel the visceral impact of bass, acoustic or electrical, kick drum and organs.
as for the kk speakers-- looks can be deceiving -- heard them at ces a couple of years ago, and they were stunning!

Hi Murat, I believe with this discussion we very much enter a realm of taste. Personally, I join the chorus and say I'm perfectly satisfied with the bass my Contivas deliver. It is clean, fast, goes very deep and is downright visceral where the music is intended to be. In my perception the Contriva's bass is simply "correct". Mind you, I consider myself a bass buff and like to hear a system thunder now and then, but I tend to get tired from what I would perceive as overblown.
I would see an analogy in wine with some big and extremely extracted Priorats. I was head over heels for a short period of time, a wonderful experience to have made. But not a wine to stack the cellar with, as it will never show the finesse nor the "queue du paon" of subtle aromas that I'm looking for personally. Still, some of them are truly great wines, my predilection is not going to change that.
So, I cross my fingers that you'll find a speaker able to move your sofa ;^) and that otherwise has the virtues of a Contriva.

I'm looking for the speakers unlimited in all frequency range.
I understand that without lowest bass system can be great anyway.
Amea is one of the best speakers on earth, I believe.
I heard once japaniese drums 2m size in one system.
That was incredible impression!
Floor, walls, everything shakes without any bloom!
This is what I'm looking for!

Murat, either get the Tidal T1 or the Eminent Technology TRW 17. I have seen it bounce pictures off the wall at 3 Hz and realistically reproduce an earthquake. I have no interest in doing either, however. You can cook your viscera with it, I should warn you, ie. your insides.