verdier Platine or Nottingham Analogue hyperspace

Charlie,
Thanks for the advice. Too many things to upgarde, the arm, the cartdridge, and now the battery pack! Do you connect the PSU directly to the Verdier motor drive or do you need the GT Audio motor?

Birdyy8,
Back to the original thread compairing the Verdier and the NA. I believe the NA Hyperspace is comparable to a Teres 200 series or lower 300 series , a Kuzma Ref., or a VPI Aries. The Veridier is a different proposition as is its price range.

Ledoux,

I haven't heard a Hyperspace but I have two friends with Verdiers, I owned a Teres 265 and now use a 320. I'd like to offer a different perspective.

To my ears the 320 is a better table than an unmodded Verdier and even the 265 beats it in some ways. The PV's noisy motor and torque-robbing silk thread severely limit its performance. The PV has the world's quietest bearing, but if the motor is noisy and the table can't maintain accurate speed through stylus drag...

I agree a PV with a better motor and drive belt (as from Galibier) would probably match or outplay a 320, as it should for 2x the price.

Not trying to start a fight. But IME anyone considering a PV should understand they won't get top class performance with the stock drive system. A new Galibier table would play better for less money out of the box, since it already comes with a good motor and belt.

Best,
Doug

"Not trying to start a fight. But IME anyone considering a PV should understand they won't get top class performance with the stock drive system. A new Galibier table would play better for less money out of the box, since it already comes with a good motor and belt."

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Debatable. A PV is $6500-$7000 new. If you think the motor is an issue, you can get, for example, a TW Acustic DC motor + controller + belt for $2500. That puts you at $9000-$9500. Some Galibier options are less than that, but it seems most are there or higher. In any case, the PV mag bearing is a big plus...you can always do something about the motor at any time...perhaps when it fails?

Ledoux,

The standard option 1 GT Audio battery PSU links to the standard black motor unit. If you go for the fancy option 2 battery supply, you will need to add the GT Audio Motor Housing as well. I have the option 1, which is very good. It just removes the noise floor and the quiet passages are inky black and silent.

For the time being use the SME V and the 501. When you do buy a Schroeder, just use the second arm board and sell the arm that you don't like. The best value Schroeder is the Model 2 carbon, which I use with my Allaerts MC1B (again best value Allaerts model).

Hope this helps and have a Happy Christmas!

Charlie

Doug,
Thanks for the Teres 320/Verdier comparison. I have always wondered about the relative value of the two decks. It does seem that a Verdier is not a great value compared to a Teres 320. Oh well!
In the end, I believe the mag platter/bearing is a smart solution, short of a pressurized/expensive system like the Rockport, Walker, or Verdier's Magnum. It is clearly maintanence free with no valve or tubing to worrying about. And that is why I like it, not to mention that it can really make beautiful music.

Charlie,
I will keep your upgarde suggestions in mind. Thanks.

And a Happy holiday to you all!

Ledoux