Vienna Acoustics Liszt - Fad or Future?

Vienna speakers sure sound different - a rather unconventional  or odd measured response. That new HF/mid drive unit is scary - it has a magnet no bigger than a tweeter and produces the most Q resonances I have seen in a long time. Most designers would be concerned with the response of the KISS through the mid range and lower treble, as Atkinson alludes

https://www.stereophile.com/content/vienna-acoustics-klimt-kiss-loudspeaker-measurements

As it has been a couple years since this thread originated, would these same people say the same things, or has some other loudspeaker derailed the Listz from their former lofty perch?


In the Listz, I thought only the midrange was latterly moveable. And the ‘Music’ was the one fully adjustable with it’s mid and tweeter with repeatable incremental shifts including elevation.


More importantly, would either the KEF Blade (either one, I or II), or the VA ‘Music’ be a substantial elevation of performance to the Listz?


Anyone push the Listz with 30 – 60 wpc tube amps? Nice? Great? Ho hum?


as for measuring concerns, at the end of the day, the measurement we all use to pay for something and put in our rooms is our ears and our eyes. well, yeah, our wallets oo. O scopes ain't he end all be all and I don't think they like anything but 'electronica'.


had to tag in on this for sure.

I've had a few of the lower end models.  I had the haydn, that was the first thing I ever bought from a real audio shop.  When Best Buy dropped the line in about 2011 I bought a full surround set of demo models for a fraction of new.  I've currently got the Mozart Grands hooked up as computer speakers.  (Cambridge DAC Magic and Creek 5350SE.)  I think they're fantastic in this application.  In my experience they're more room and placement dependent than most speakers.  I compared them to my Thiel 2 2s in an old living room and I thought the Thiels embarrassed them.  The Thiels were much clearer and had a good amount of punch where the small drivers in the Viennas just couldn't do it.  They also sounded pretty strange in there, I have to think they've got a strange off axis response that becomes really obvious in a more reflective room. 

I was told that they're optimized for Europe where most houses have smaller rooms that are more solidly built.  That was a number of years ago so may not be true of newer models.  The ones I have definitely sound better when you're sitting fairly close and are in a room that's on the smaller side.