What amps should I audition?


I’m thinking ahead (crazy I know)

I want to purchase a high end amplifier next year, maybe an integrated or just a power amp.

I would be looking to spend around 15k max on an integrated, and 8-10k on a power amp separate (funds to acquire a preamp will be got at a later date next year)

What brands and what model from each brand should I try to get a home audition for? 

I should note I would probably be buying new as I can’t imagine I will be able to get a home audition with used gear. I’m open to buying used, but I’d have to get an audition in a system like mine, or actually in my system... I don’t really want to buy anything without auditioning first. On a related note, what is the easiest or best way to get a dealer relationship started, one where he would let me home audition? I’m even willing to pay 100% deposit if it means I can return it no questions ask after the audition period, but the dealers I’ve asked to do this with so far have refused. I always see people on this forum saying they manage to do that. I’m a bit at a loss how they manage to pull that off.

Anyway some more ideas: Bryston amps and Nagra Classic pre? This was the only setup I’ve heard on my speakers and it was quite magical. I really like the Nagra, and the Bryston combo. Used, it could be got within my budget. New.. not so much. I could swap out the Brystons with the matching Nagra amp, maybe. Or even just go for the Nagra Classic Integrated. All within my budget (if used) and with my speakers 96db sensitivity I should be good to go with the Nagra 100wpc rating.

other ideas: mcintosh mc462 or mc275 mk vi. 
Pass Labs XA30.8 or XA60.8 or XA100.8
Acxuphase e-470
Luxman 509X 

Actually that’s all I’ve really come up with so far. I am open to hearing any thoughts, concerns or ideas you may have. I do believe all the above mentioned amps will better my Kinki EX-M1. 

Cabling will be upgraded to Audience before any of this by the way. 
d2girls

Showing 1 response by blindjim

looking for amps or anything else is not as simple as it appears. ordinarily.


settling the electrical mating of amp and speakers is top priority. that part seems settled 

given the chosen speakers have great eff.

 

I’ve found thru the years amps like other gear are separated into teirs or levels, by price, usually.  $500 to $1500; $2K to $4K; $5K to $9K; $10K to $16K; and above 16Kt he diffs as with each level become slighter. Depending on topology. naturally, comparisons       in the various  groups  has to be with likewise topologies. tubes vs tubes, SS v SS, etc. 


hearing someone considering either a tube or SS or Digi power source seems to indicate that someone is not entirely settled on the ‘type’ of sound they really want. . , or could be happy either way, this is of course, OK too. but at some point a choice must be made between the type of sound, and IMHO, then the type of amp one desires. gets easier.


subs can bolster tube amp bottom ends. but that means mo’ money! personally I adore tubes though I would miss SS attributes now and then if a desire to kick out some AC DC overwhelms me. and it does now and then.


no one has said anything about weight.  in past years the dry weight of an amp or amps carried some uh, weight of its own, allying better builds with heavier amps, all else being equal.


I know what some Pass Labs XA amps weigh, and two of ‘em weigh more. then there’s the amp stands too. and power cords double if you go with monos.


 I think most audio nuts should have two setups. an all tube affair, and an all SS or digi arrangement. 



one of the best rigs I put together was a top quality tube pre, and a mid level $6K SS amp. it worked well with any sort of music IMO. then I went all in on tubes. whoa. I allowed for its short comings with aC DC and was very, very happy.      even with big band jazz. but that’s just me.


some wisdom has already been dropped here in doing the ‘audiogon shuffle’. buy, try, flip, and possibly, repeat.


it could well beat plunking down a ton on something and being even a wee bit remorseful later.


doing the ‘shuffle’ gives ya some perspective on the house sound of various makers gear.  that experience may conme in handy. later, or may not if you choose to mix houses in the power train, ala one brand  pre, another brand amp.


very good luck on your quest, whatever you decide.