What is wrong with negative feedback?


I am not talking about the kind you get as a flaky seller, but as used in amplifier design. It just seems to me that a lot of amp designs advertise "zero negative feedback" as a selling point.

As I understand, NFB is a loop taken from the amplifier output and fed back into the input to keep the amp stable. This sounds like it should be a good thing. So what are the negative trade-offs involved, if any?
solman989
Ralph Atmosphere said, " A typical orchestra can do 115db with ease, yet many audiophiles will not turn up the volume past 95 db because its 'too damn loud' or they get 'turn that @#$% down!' from their S.O. This mostly due to artificial loudness cues which are totally coming from distorted odd ordered harmonics, and by that I mean only 100ths of a percent."

I ask do you listen to your system at this level?

Bob
"These amps are high damping factor which matches well to the OHMs, so I suspect there is NF applied, but not sure"

Mapman - Not only NFB is applied but it is mulitiple (two) called Mulivariable Enhanced Cascade Control. It is in the Karsten Nielsen doctorate work available on the web (Icepower). Feedback doesn't have to be deep since class D amp has inherently low output impedance even without feedback. Speaker is always connected to +Vs and GND and only direction changes (very low resistance Mosfet Bridge). Output impedance increases with frequency but DF is still about 1000 at 1kHz.
A few years ago, we had a regular and good contributor (be nice if he came back) Ar t an amp designer, suggested that in his typical ss designs he would try to keep NF to a minimum, but in his switching amps though there was much more NF, it didn't seem to be an issue. I wonder if it was due to the NF in the switching amps occurring at a faster rate?
Jamesgarvin I had a pair of Manley ref 440/200 monos that had adjustable slopes and feedback to custom taylor the sound;there were noticable differences but I did not consider it annoying just different.

Unsound - Feedback in Icepower amps is called Multivariable because it consists of two feedbacks controling voltage and time.

I suspect that feedback in class D is less evil for few reasons:

Amp cannot become unstable (oscillate) since it is already oscillating.

Response can be very fast limited only by Mosfet's max current and resistance (sort of Hysteretic converter)

Voltage feedback is shallow because duty cycle is more linear than transistor characteristic(less feedback required) and also because "time feedback" already corrected most of nonlinearities. I suspect that voltage feedback is helping to deal with load regulation. Early class D amps (Tact) had no voltage feedback at all and were sensitive to load conditions.

Momentary saturation of output stage (charge trapped at the junction) that happens in bad cases of class AB is irrelevant since time (duty cycle) and not the voltage is analog quantity.